edstock Posted January 26, 2019 Share #1 Posted January 26, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Trying to get some information, good or bad, the Schneider 35 f4 shift lens. Anybody used it or owned it, if so what were the results? Before I plunk down some green for one I need information. Any help appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 Hi edstock, Take a look here Leica 35 f4 Schneider PA Curtagon Shift lens. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
masjah Posted January 26, 2019 Share #2 Posted January 26, 2019 Never seen or used this earlier lens. However, Brian Bower, in Leica Reflex Photography, is absolutely unequivocal in saying that the 28/2.8 PC Super Angulon R is a far superior lens, in terms of wider angle (an advantage in its intended role), greater shift and better optical performance. So far as I can see, the only reason for getting the earlier lens is cost, and I chose to spend more and get the better, later lens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edstock Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted January 28, 2019 Thanks for the information. Wisely put. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quixotic Posted February 2, 2019 Share #4 Posted February 2, 2019 I have one. It really is a fine little lens...except for the fact that it only has 7mm of shift. The shift mechanism (twist and shift) is second to none, in my opinion. Here is a photo I took with it: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/293667-leica-35-f4-schneider-pa-curtagon-shift-lens/?do=findComment&comment=3676821'>More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted October 17, 2020 Share #5 Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) Just acquired a Leica R 35/4 PA Curtagon and very pleased with it ... I've read the "naysayers'" comments about this lens on other forums ... some of them have maybe never used it .... and maybe just repeat others' negative comments. The lens is small, lightweight, and very easy to use ... and in common with other Schneider wide angles works best at small apertures e.g. f11 ... which is no detriment when using digital mirrorless ICL cameras with live view image amplification. I also use the Schneider PC Super Angulon R 28/2.8 ... sure it's a better lens than the Curtagon in terms of resolution .. but the Curtagon's image foootprint is excellent and it can be sourced for less than a third of the price ... and I can pack and use both lenses for my architectural trips. Furthermore, the Curtagon has an excellent 12" / 30cm minimum focus distance which promises to be ideal for tabletop still life / close-up imaging. Yesterday when trying the lens for the first time the 7mm max shift was more than adequate for the types of buildings photographed e.g. https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/290932-stamford-lincs-uk-architecture/?do=findComment&comment=4063941 dunk Edited October 17, 2020 by dkCambridgeshire 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted October 17, 2020 Share #6 Posted October 17, 2020 Beautiful series of Stamford, dunk! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted October 17, 2020 Share #7 Posted October 17, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 49 minutes ago, jankap said: Beautiful series of Stamford, dunk! Thank you Jan. There are some interesting churches in Stamford but one in particular, i.e. St Mary's, has suffered badly from pigeons' damage ... pigeons are partly responsible for weakening the spire ... to the extent that it's not safe to ring the bells. BW dunk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted October 18, 2020 Share #8 Posted October 18, 2020 Another Curtagon 35/4 shift lens image ... showing that its 7mm shift is adequate for church towers https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/290932-stamford-lincs-uk-architecture/?do=findComment&comment=4064612 The lens has an undeserved 'average' / 'so so' reputation ... it was designed to be used at f11 when shift movements are employed. BW dunk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted October 21, 2020 Share #9 Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Another Leitz R Curtagon 35/4 shift lens image ... this time coupled to the Panasonic S1R ... I'm enjoying experimenting with this much maligned and misunderstood lens. My Curtagon example was made in 1970 ... thus 50 years young ... and has many more years' use ahead https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/290932-stamford-lincs-uk-architecture/?do=findComment&comment=4066281 BW dunk Edited October 21, 2020 by dkCambridgeshire typo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OM2 Posted October 6, 2024 Share #10 Posted October 6, 2024 Hi anybody knows if this lens works properly with the r8 ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helge Posted October 9, 2024 Share #11 Posted October 9, 2024 Am 7.10.2024 um 01:58 schrieb OM2: Hi anybody knows if this lens works properly with the r8 ? I use it with my R9 without any issues. It does not affect the ROM contacts and the „R cam“ is there which allows the built-in meter to work properly. I use it a lot and the results are very good. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted October 11, 2024 Share #12 Posted October 11, 2024 (edited) Another 'handheld' Panasonic S1R L-mount / R Curtagon 35/4 shift lens image. Schneider recommended stopping lens down to f8 or f11 for optimum results when using shift facility. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Star Lane Mews development adjacent to Broad Street, Stamford Lincs. UK. I'm happy with the lens which lay unloved & unsold in LCE Strand's s/h stock for 3? years before they accepted my offer to buy. Lens has an undeserved 'average' reputation – likely repeated by those who've not used it or who fail to stop down to the recommended aperture. The stop-down facility enables fast open aperture metering. Aperture f8 / f11 is of no consequence on a modern high ISO capable ICL digital mirrorless camera. I also use the 28/2.8 PC Super Angulon R but in some situations prefer the Curtagon's 35mm FOV. BW, dunk Edited October 11, 2024 by dkCambridgeshire 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Star Lane Mews development adjacent to Broad Street, Stamford Lincs. UK. I'm happy with the lens which lay unloved & unsold in LCE Strand's s/h stock for 3? years before they accepted my offer to buy. Lens has an undeserved 'average' reputation – likely repeated by those who've not used it or who fail to stop down to the recommended aperture. The stop-down facility enables fast open aperture metering. Aperture f8 / f11 is of no consequence on a modern high ISO capable ICL digital mirrorless camera. I also use the 28/2.8 PC Super Angulon R but in some situations prefer the Curtagon's 35mm FOV. BW, dunk ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/293667-leica-35-f4-schneider-pa-curtagon-shift-lens/?do=findComment&comment=5652881'>More sharing options...
jankap Posted October 13, 2024 Share #13 Posted October 13, 2024 Very nice. You did not use perspective correction, I suppose. For such pictures, I have to use PS filter wa correction. Even with the 15mm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted October 13, 2024 Share #14 Posted October 13, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, jankap said: Very nice. You did not use perspective correction, I suppose. For such pictures, I have to use PS filter wa correction. Even with the 15mm. PC is achieved 'in camera' using the lens' available 'shift'. Lens always used 'handheld' in Stamford because there is no room on narrow pavements to set up a tripod. However, I always 'play the %' and take lots of pix of the same subject being aware that camera shake is always a risk. Camera shake risk is exacerbated by virtue of needing to use f8 but ideally f11 – which can increase exposure times – unless high ISO rating also used. But no hard and fast rules. Actual exposure settings are determined 'on the day' and also depend on the available light. Prefer to not use the S1R's image stabilisation facility as have experienced poor results using same. BW, dunk Edited October 13, 2024 by dkCambridgeshire 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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