Jan1985 Posted June 4, 2019 Share #181 Â Posted June 4, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Because of the discussions during the last weeks I just wrote an email to the german head for the S Program Mr. [name removed]. He answered that they are working very intensively on the S3 and fixing last Details to finalize the product for its launch soon. He said it is one of the biggest themes on their Roadmap for 2019. Of course he couldnt Talk about details. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 Hi Jan1985, Take a look here When will S3 be available? {merged}. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
albireo_double Posted June 4, 2019 Share #182  Posted June 4, 2019 If you mean [name removed], I think he is a "customer care representative", not head of the S Program. He is the man who was "surprised to see my email from two years ago in which I alerted Leica to a bug in their tethered plugin", only to inform me that unfortunately, nothing had been done to fix the issue in the past two years and "The topic is known by the Leica Camera LG and a reliable solution with today's applications cannot be offered". I have been in contact with him on other questions, too, and gained the impression that he may not be the best informed person around. Or maybe he is a well-informed person and the problem is with me, in that I do not like the replies I keep getting from him. In which case I apologise for sounding like less of a fanboy that I should be, given my approx. Eur50k investment in the Leica S system. I think Tony Felsner is the head of the S product. I'd wake up from my "S3 slumber" if you reported to have had info from him. Any information from [name removed], I take with a generous pinch of salt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmay Posted June 4, 2019 Share #183 Â Posted June 4, 2019 I think I need to give another view. I have had many interactions with [name removed] and he has always been forthright and helpful. Jesse djessemay.com 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.gt Posted June 4, 2019 Share #184  Posted June 4, 2019 Am 4.6.2019 um 22:17 schrieb djmay: I think I need to give another view. I have had many interactions with [name removed] and he has always been forthright and helpful. Jesse djessemay.com I think it is remarkable to even get a personal conversation with anyone at that corporate level. One thing is for sure... any corporation having put so much time, money and work into a program that is near to launch, is certainly not wanting to delay it any longer than absolutely necessary. I am sure they have an itchy trigger finger about now. Lol...😀 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan1985 Posted June 4, 2019 Share #185  Posted June 4, 2019 For me I just was curious about the question if they REALLY work on it or they skipped this product line to come up with the news in the next weeks... I am really excited about the S3 in general, especially the price tag 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Richardson Posted June 4, 2019 Share #186 Â Posted June 4, 2019 Am 4.6.2019 um 22:17 schrieb djmay: I think I need to give another view. I have had many interactions with [name removed] and he has always been forthright and helpful. Jesse djessemay.com Yes, me too. But of course, I think Leica (and Germans in general) take their commitments to secrecy quite seriously. I have always gotten the sense over the years that Leica consciously does not inform customer service personnel about certain things so that they are not put into the position of doling out information to friendly or persistent customers. I have had the sense that if you want information it is generally better to squeeze the non-German, non-Leica store dealers. They often have more contact with country level distributors who do tend to have a general idea what is in the pipeline so that they can communicate those things to the dealers. Of course, this is just an impression I have had...nothing more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CYBORA Posted June 11, 2019 Share #187 Â Posted June 11, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) It will be available in 20S3. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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frame-it Posted June 14, 2019 Share #189 Â Posted June 14, 2019 On 6/5/2019 at 8:41 AM, Stuart Richardson said: Yes, me too. But of course, I think Leica (and Germans in general) take their commitments to secrecy quite seriously. I have always gotten the sense over the years that Leica consciously does not inform customer service personnel about certain things so that they are not put into the position of doling out information to friendly or persistent customers. I have had the sense that if you want information it is generally better to squeeze the non-German, non-Leica store dealers. They often have more contact with country level distributors who do tend to have a general idea what is in the pipeline so that they can communicate those things to the dealers. Of course, this is just an impression I have had...nothing more. pity Leica doesnt make/allow videos like this for the S3 Â Â 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaubauu2009 Posted June 14, 2019 Share #190 Â Posted June 14, 2019 4 hours ago, frame-it said: pity Leica doesnt make/allow videos like this for the S3 Â Â Well, that's the mystic of it... you can't break the spell. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lx1713 Posted June 20, 2019 Share #191  Posted June 20, 2019 Looking at the S, I figured that if Leica stripped out the mirror mechanism (becoming mirrorless) and replaced it with a sensor that can be shifted (and possible tilt/swing)). They can gain +- 5mm shift. All without changing the body. But of course that would exceed the current lenses image circles. Unless they are designed to handle a larger image circle then all Leica needs to do is to drop in a larger sensor and do away with the mechanism to shift the sensor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McMaster Posted June 24, 2019 Share #192 Â Posted June 24, 2019 But the whole point of mirrorless is a thinner body, Leica S lenses are not designed for a thin body.... john Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 24, 2019 Share #193  Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, John McMaster said: But the whole point of mirrorless is a thinner body, Leica S lenses are not designed for a thin body.... john You mean like the SL 24-90, SL 90-280 and SL 50 1.4?  Size-wise, not coverage, that is... a mirrorless S would indeed need new lenses. Jeff Edited June 24, 2019 by Jeff S Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted June 24, 2019 Share #194  Posted June 24, 2019 57 minutes ago, Jeff S said: ... a mirrorless S would indeed need new lenses. To become a smaller (small MF) camera, and I think it would be reasonable to expect an adapter for our S lenses, if it ever comes to that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 24, 2019 Share #195 Â Posted June 24, 2019 Agreed, if the system survives. Jeff 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrayson3 Posted June 24, 2019 Share #196  Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) Go to camerasize.com and compare a Leica S to the new Fuji 100MP. You'll surprised at the thickness comparison. Even without the eyepiece, it's still about the same.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited June 24, 2019 by mgrayson3 3 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/293664-when-will-s3-be-available-merged/?do=findComment&comment=3765778'>More sharing options...
Stuart Richardson Posted June 24, 2019 Share #197 Â Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) I guess we get to pick...mirror box and OVF or sensor stabilization and enough room for 10 bit 4K heat generation... And I guess the GFX is a good bit taller than the S as well? But the S lenses are bigger and heavier... Edited June 24, 2019 by Stuart Richardson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaubauu2009 Posted June 25, 2019 Share #198  Posted June 25, 2019 8 hours ago, John McMaster said: But the whole point of mirrorless is a thinner body, Leica S lenses are not designed for a thin body.... john No, thin body is not the main point for mirrorless, look at GFX50s, rubbish body design. the main point is lower cost, higher accuracy in focusing, better lens design as the rear element is closer to the sensor, and IBIS possibility. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaubauu2009 Posted June 25, 2019 Share #199  Posted June 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Stuart Richardson said: I guess we get to pick...mirror box and OVF or sensor stabilization and enough room for 10 bit 4K heat generation... And I guess the GFX is a good bit taller than the S as well? But the S lenses are bigger and heavier... I think GFX100 is misleading. The overall shape if you just look at it from a plan view look thicker. but trust me, it's a lot thinner than the S, and in the hand you will feel it. It's rugged, but a bit hollow to the case, like as if they should make the body smaller, but they didn't, where as Leica is they jam it to the edge with no gaps in between when you hold it in your hand. That vertical grip on the 100 is really annoying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHNL Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share #200  Posted June 25, 2019 If you look modern 35mm prime lenses including Leica SL glasses lux and zoom, you will find size of S is really manageable. After handling OTUS and sigma Art,  I feel all the weight and size of S is more than justified, though Z7 with 24-70f4 zoom will bring down weight significantly which I am taking right now for my international traveling. OVF or size is not Leica S’s problem, however No progression is. Even if S003’s center AF can approaching of D750/D850 performance, I will be very happy. With 64M and superb build and ergonomics, I personally don’t fell any other MF better than it for my need. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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