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Although this is not the „politically correct“ answer in the Historica subforum, I will be honest:

I tremendously enjoy all of my film Leicas, aged between 15 and 85 years. I do use all of them on a regular basis. If, however, I had to pare down to one single setup in 2019, it would be M10 + 28/50/90 M glass. If limited to film, it would be my M7. Sorry ;)

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The set up shown is, with the exception of wider than 35mm lenses, little different from what many of us happily use today. Personally I would need to add in a 21mm (the f/4 Super-Angulon) and finder, then it would be perfectly acceptable in terms of focal length covered (and thus would mimic my digital Leica set up quite well).

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To be really politically incorrect, I would pare down to my M7 for film and my M8 for digital.  I believe the spectral response of the M8, without cut filter, is superior for B&W.  Unfortunately the M7 and M8 require different focal length sets.

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On 1/16/2019 at 10:17 AM, pgk said:

The set up shown is, with the exception of wider than 35mm lenses, little different from what many of us happily use today. Personally I would need to add in a 21mm (the f/4 Super-Angulon) and finder, then it would be perfectly acceptable in terms of focal length covered (and thus would mimic my digital Leica set up quite well).

I agree, except I don't have a 21mm SA! 

It is interesting to see that in their writings both Walther Benser and Theo Scheerer use the same outfit (3.5, 5, 9, 13.5cm )  but with the addition of the  20cm Telyt and PLOOT; in Benser's case (and,by inference, probably Sheerer's too ) together with a ZOOAN to use the 13.5cm Hektor on the PLOOT as well.  When having to off-load some gear to make travelling lighter on a motorcycle Benser had to leave the 13.5cm behind, much against his wishes, as he hadn't taken the long focus mount with him.  Both refer to the 13.5cm Hektor with some affection, a focal length that seems to be out of favour these days with the emphasis now on ultra wide angles.

Susie

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13 minutes ago, Ambro51 said:

I love the Vintage aspect, coupled with coated Leica optics.   To put together this kit, cost less than a grand.    (Or, 1/3 the cost of one fancy new M lens )

I've often thought that it would be relatively cheap to put such a kit together especially if great cosmetic condition is not a top priority but optics/mechanics are sound. Not so easy to use as later equipment but capable of excellent results if used carefully. In the late '70s I was loaned my father's IIIB and 50mm Elmar and shot sharp and well exposed Kodachromes on it. The little yellow box dropping through the letter box was an exciting moment.

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2 hours ago, Susie said:

I agree, except I don't have a 21mm SA! 

It is interesting to see that in their writings both Walther Benser and Theo Scheerer use the same outfit (3.5, 5, 9, 13.5cm )  but with the addition of the  20cm Telyt and PLOOT; in Benser's case (and,by inference, probably Sheerer's too ) together with a ZOOAN to use the 13.5cm Hektor on the PLOOT as well.  When having to off-load some gear to make travelling lighter on a motorcycle Benser had to leave the 13.5cm behind, much against his wishes, as he hadn't taken the long focus mount with him.  Both refer to the 13.5cm Hektor with some affection, a focal length that seems to be out of favour these days with the emphasis now on ultra wide angles.

Susie

For anyone who feels that for the amount of use, a Super Angulon 21 would be too large an investment, there is always the tiny Cosina-Voigtlander 21/4 Colour Skopar. Stephen Gandy at Cameraquest, still had a few of these left in LTM and as an additional inducement, was including a free 21 viewfinder, which makes them very reasonable. Now QC is not all it might be on these lenses. The first one I bought some years ago, was awful. I took it straight back to the shop in Tsim Sha Tsui, who looked at the images and immediately diagnosed a de-centred lens cell. I exchanged it for one of the excellent 21mm/2.8 ZM Biogons, which I only sold when I got a wide angle Tri-Elmar. The second 21/4 Skopar I bought a year ago seems just fine. I use it on my Ig camera, as with this slowish wide lens, zone focusing works just fine. 

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Just thinking about this this morning, of course what Benser and Scheerer are saying in the early 1950s, is that they both take all the readily available lenses with them!  Apart from which aperture 50mm lens (Elmar or Summitar) there wasn't much else to choose from.  Oh! wouldn't the same situation today cut down on the volume of postings on the M Lens forum!  It would also make things much easier for me when going away.

Regarding the 21SA, although I don't have one of these, I do have and use my 21mm Elmarit (non-asph).  Am I correct in saying that the M mount 21/4 SA are screw mount with the screw/M adaptor held on with a set screw?

Susie

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