didier Posted January 8, 2019 Share #1 Posted January 8, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Dear all, I am the happy owner of a M(240), and more recently a CL and SL. I am coming from over 15 years of film M. I like shooting the rangefinder camera though I find a huge difference between my almost 5 year old M and the most recent (for me: I got the CL last january and the SL in October) cameras in image quality as soon as I shoot over iso 1600. I almost never shoot the M in color over iso 1600 since I don’t like what I can get out of lightroom @iso 2500 or more in color. i also have trouble with color consistency in mixed (daylight + artificial) lighting with the M. on both issues I find the SL is far superior and even the CL. Do you share the same experience ? do you think the M10 is much better in those areas ? thanks for sharing your experience didier Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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adan Posted January 8, 2019 Share #2 Posted January 8, 2019 See: My experience (and the reason I got an M10 after skipping the M420) is that the colors have slightly less of a red bias, across all ISOs. Closer to my CCD M9 colors. My experience is also that, while the M10 has DR at least equal to the M240, it is "hidden" by a default contrast curve. Straight from the camera, M240 pix look grayer and duller (or "smoother and longer-toned", depending on word choice) - the M10 will look shockingy saturated and contrasty straight from the camera, by comparison. Intelligent post-processing settings can, of course, make either "look like" the other, if one has a preference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAL Posted January 8, 2019 Share #3 Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) vor 20 Minuten schrieb adan: See: My experience (and the reason I got an M10 after skipping the M420) is that the colors have slightly less of a red bias, across all ISOs. Closer to my CCD M9 colors. My experience is also that, while the M10 has DR at least equal to the M240, it is "hidden" by a default contrast curve. Straight from the camera, M240 pix look grayer and duller (or "smoother and longer-toned", depending on word choice) - the M10 will look shockingy saturated and contrasty straight from the camera, by comparison. Intelligent post-processing settings can, of course, make either "look like" the other, if one has a preference. Are talking about Raw or Jpeg images? Edited January 8, 2019 by SMAL Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted January 8, 2019 Share #4 Posted January 8, 2019 What's Jpeg? I think maybe I shot one of those about 2004. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 8, 2019 Share #5 Posted January 8, 2019 You did? Tsk, tsk, tsk... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted January 8, 2019 Share #6 Posted January 8, 2019 Yeh, well, that was the Digilux 2, where shooting raw locked up the camera for 8 seconds between pictures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 9, 2019 Share #7 Posted January 9, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, it was a leisurely camera. Shutter lag was in the order of a second. I still have mine, it was a great camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted January 9, 2019 Share #8 Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) Actually - with manual or scale focusing, I clocked the Digilux lag at about 0.15 sec (including EVF lag). That, of course, doesn't include photographer reaction time. https://www.photo.net/equipment/leica/digilux2/index.lgc But we're getting away from didier's question. I find the M10 color to be more accurate, or at least pleasing, that what I got trying out M240s. And that holds up into the higher ISOs that I use (12500 tops). However, mixed lighting will always be difficult - just no way to correct yellow (or green fluorescent) artificial light and bluer full-spectrum sunlight. I can't say the M10 is much different in that regard. Edited January 9, 2019 by adan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didier Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share #9 Posted January 13, 2019 Thanks for your answers i have not yet decided Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafecacao Posted January 17, 2019 Share #10 Posted January 17, 2019 I just read this thread, comparing high ISO between M10 and SL, refer: https://www.streetsilhouettes.com/home/2017/3/8/leica-m10-vs-leica-sl-part-ii-high-iso-and-dynamic-range Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 17, 2019 Share #11 Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/9/2019 at 7:39 AM, adan said: Actually - with manual or scale focusing, I clocked the Digilux lag at about 0.15 sec (including EVF lag). That, of course, doesn't include photographer reaction time. https://www.photo.net/equipment/leica/digilux2/index.lgc But we're getting away from didier's question. I find the M10 color to be more accurate, or at least pleasing, that what I got trying out M240s. And that holds up into the higher ISOs that I use (12500 tops). However, mixed lighting will always be difficult - just no way to correct yellow (or green fluorescent) artificial light and bluer full-spectrum sunlight. I can't say the M10 is much different in that regard. A spot of hyperbole, Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didier Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share #12 Posted January 19, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 11:00 AM, cafecacao said: I just read this thread, comparing high ISO between M10 and SL, refer: https://www.streetsilhouettes.com/home/2017/3/8/leica-m10-vs-leica-sl-part-ii-high-iso-and-dynamic-range Thanks !!! Very useful !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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