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Lightroom CC is severely lacking when compared to Classic

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LocalHero1953

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Photoshop CC is just as powerful as before - it's only the distinction between LR Classic CC and LR CC you need to know about.

No, life is not simple as LR CC and LR Classic are set up, though I'm willing to work with them for the benefits.

If you've got as far as looking at LR CC's options, then you need to know that the basic "local storage of originals" is just what it says, a local backup of originals and no edits, and you can't turn them into a catalogue used by LR Classic that syncs to LR CC. However, when you upload all your images to the cloud at the start, you can keep your local LR Classic photo collection, synced with LR CC. This isn't as helpful as it seems, though: LR CC organises files in folders by year, month and day, while allowing you to include them in virtual albums by custom subject. When it syncs back to LR Classic, it seems to put them in the same year, month, day structure, whatever they were in originally on your local device. This makes it hard to track older photos in your LR Classic catalogue if you want to edit, batch rename or print them - you have to find the folder for the correct day.

Once, LR CC gets a bit more basic functionality (I'm hoping), I shouldn't have to rely too much on LR Classic. 

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16 minutes ago, Gibbo said:

I think Photoshop CC is what we know as Photoshop. I’m not aware of a pared down version. 

There isn’t one. 

Incidently full Photoshop is due to come to the iPad Pro next year. They have a seriously powerful processor in them - to the extent that there is speculation they’ll replace Intel processors in Macs. 

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Jeff S

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4 hours ago, andybarton said:

 

I knew that some functions were missing from CC, but not that maybe 90% of them aren't included.

 

 

Less functionality,  increasingly more over time, but a lot more than 10% as itemized in the link I provided earlier, which even details the latest additions....

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/lightroom-cc-vs-classic-features/

I don’t know about buyer ‘beware’, but buyer ‘ be aware’ seems sensible before purchase of any major software. This one was described by all the usual LR sources, the same ones I consult to effectively use LR after purchase as well.  

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evikne

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All LR Classic photography plans also include LR CC for free. So anyone can try it out as long as they will, and fully migrate to CC when they think it has evolved enough for their needs.

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Exodies

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Photoshop CC is the full program. An iPad version will be available next year, I don’t know if this will lack any features.

Im a bit confused by this tread, do you have a subscription which includes Lightroom CC but not Lightroom Classic CC?

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Photoshop Elements has been around a long time, pre-dating Lightroom.  So I don't think there is any intention of it being a Lightroom replacement.  It is a good question why Photoshop Elements and Premier Elements are not part of either "Creative Cloud" suite.

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Well, they do have to find a way to keep the non-subscription LR crowd on board 

PS is different - it was always expensive and subscribing is actually a saving over regular upgrades. And it has no real competitor.

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On 12/3/2018 at 10:27 AM, Alex U. said:

Hm, this would make a lot of people very, very angry. But this is subject to another thread that is yet to come.

I have a feeling they are angry already in any case. ;)

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On 12/2/2018 at 8:06 AM, LocalHero1953 said:

I signed up for Lightroom CC a few months ago, alongside my LR Classic subscription. I went into it open-eyed and knew from all the information out there that LR CC is limited in many of the areas of functionality where it overlaps with Classic. No, it's not a con - all this information is out there - but I still hope there will be some big upgrades over the next year or so.

What LR CC offers that LR Classic does not is two major things that are valuable to me:

- the ability seamlessly to sync photos to a common archive/catalogue from wherever you happen to take them: via phone, tablet or laptop. While travelling in India recently I could either upload edited photos to LR CC on the go from my tablet (limited by local wifi connection speeds though) or have them automatically synced when I got home (or, on one occasion a paid-for high speed wifi connection), and maintain common edit records. Now at home, I can choose to edit on my tablet or PC in turn. I don't have to do anything to sync them.

- the ability to share photos via a web link without creating new copies. For clients I can just send them a link to the album and let them review and download. For using photos in emails to friends, I just send them a link - no need to make a new copy downsized as an attachment.

There are many aspects of LR CC that are seriously limiting: advanced editing (though you can use Photoshop from LR CC), batch file rename, cataloguing flaws (no easy way to find all photos NOT in an album), no printing facility (except through PS), and many others. I have created a workaround by maintaining a local store of images in LR Classic on my PC, where I can do better editing and renaming which get synced back to LR CC, and printing, but this has its own limitations, including having to maintain a LR Classic subscription. I have justified this by dropping my Crashplan subscription for offsite backup - backup for me now is a combination of Adobe for photos and Onedrive for everything else.

Message for anyone thinking of using LR CC: don't choose it without knowing what you're jumping into!

I use the mobile version of LR on my iPad pro when travelling.

The processed images sync via the cloud to my version of LR Classic at home ..... so LR CC is not really needed for this functionality..... you just need to activate it in LR. 

The iPad version of LR is plenty good enough for processing when out and about ...... and I often fail to improve on the final images when I do it in LR at home. Having a touch screen and a pen actually makes it easier and more accurate than using a desktop or a laptop. When adobe release PS for the new iPad Pro things will get very interesting .....

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LocalHero1953

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31 minutes ago, thighslapper said:

I use the mobile version of LR on my iPad pro when travelling.

The processed images sync via the cloud to my version of LR Classic at home ..... so LR CC is not really needed for this functionality..... you just need to activate it in LR. 

The iPad version of LR is plenty good enough for processing when out and about ...... and I often fail to improve on the final images when I do it in LR at home. Having a touch screen and a pen actually makes it easier and more accurate than using a desktop or a laptop. When adobe release PS for the new iPad Pro things will get very interesting .....

Yes, I understand both these. I like having access to the full image everywhere, though, not just a smart preview. And I still prefer to see my final editing on a big colour-calibrated monitor at home; I use a Surface Pro for travel and although its screen is good, I see more on the 27".

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Nothing for me like editing and softproofing for print using LR Classic in conjunction with ImagePrint on a desktop Mac Pro with separate large monitor (NEC).  No hurry to edit while traveling, but laptop can be useful for extra storage and/or quick review.

Jeff

 

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Apple forbids touch screens for Macs.  I think there are ways to use iPads as secondary monitors with a Mac though.  Next year I may explore the options for a touch screen with my MacPro, maybe after the new MacPro comes out.

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