Photon42 Posted January 11, 2020 Share #121 Posted January 11, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I recently bought a Sonnar from a German distributor. I was just too curious both regarding the lens drawing and the whole focus shift thing. My lens is perfectly fine at f2.2-2.8. At f1.5, it focusses slightly before the subject, which can be compensated for my s light move forward (2cm). At minimal focus distance, I trained myself to slightly move the focus ring towards farther away (0.92 vs 0.9 ... :)). If the subject is a bit further away than, say 1.5m, I just ignore compensation at f15, as the depth of field seems to cover for the focus shift. All that can be easily seen and verified in the EVF, of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stephengv Posted January 12, 2020 Share #122 Posted January 12, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 4:18 PM, Alberti said: Stephen, well, looking at this performance, then I prefer the lens calibrated at f:1.5 ! When calibrated as such, is the lens in focus at say 2 and 5 meteres and f:1.5 too? Yes it does. Problem is if you shift to higher Aperture than you have to adjust the focus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kutfe Posted January 13, 2020 Share #123 Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) I noticed that there are two sets of serial numbers. Starting at 15 .. and at 51 .., does anyone have any thoughts on their differences? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 13, 2020 by Kutfe Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/291595-zeiss-c-sonnar-5015-images/?do=findComment&comment=3890466'>More sharing options...
S/W Posted January 13, 2020 Share #124 Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica M-E (240) * Zeiss C Sonnar M 1.5/50 * F/1.5 * ISO 200 * NiK SEP2 Edited January 13, 2020 by S/W 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica M-E (240) * Zeiss C Sonnar M 1.5/50 * F/1.5 * ISO 200 * NiK SEP2 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/291595-zeiss-c-sonnar-5015-images/?do=findComment&comment=3890772'>More sharing options...
S/W Posted January 13, 2020 Share #125 Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica M-E (240) * Zeiss C Sonnar M 1.5/50 * F/1.5 * ISO 200 * NiK SEP2 Edited January 13, 2020 by S/W 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica M-E (240) * Zeiss C Sonnar M 1.5/50 * F/1.5 * ISO 200 * NiK SEP2 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/291595-zeiss-c-sonnar-5015-images/?do=findComment&comment=3890773'>More sharing options...
S/W Posted January 13, 2020 Share #126 Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica M-E (240) * Zeiss C Sonnar M 1.5/50 * F/1.5 * ISO 200 * NiK SEP2 Edited January 13, 2020 by S/W 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica M-E (240) * Zeiss C Sonnar M 1.5/50 * F/1.5 * ISO 200 * NiK SEP2 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/291595-zeiss-c-sonnar-5015-images/?do=findComment&comment=3890774'>More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 13, 2020 Share #127 Posted January 13, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 1/7/2020 at 4:05 AM, stephengv said: Trying out the sonnar 50 1.5: Mine arrive calibrated at 1.5, so I have to adjust for back focus when shooting anything above 1.5. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Why would you shoot it at anything but ƒ/1,5..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted January 17, 2020 Share #128 Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Sonnar on an M10D. For me this is exemplary of the look it gives. Edited January 17, 2020 by Photon42 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Sonnar on an M10D. For me this is exemplary of the look it gives. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/291595-zeiss-c-sonnar-5015-images/?do=findComment&comment=3892995'>More sharing options...
haikos Posted January 22, 2020 Share #129 Posted January 22, 2020 On 1/13/2020 at 5:47 AM, Kutfe said: I noticed that there are two sets of serial numbers. Starting at 15 .. and at 51 .., does anyone have any thoughts on their differences? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hello all! I'm a new member here and this is my first post. I just received my brand new C Sonnar 50 from my local AD a few days ago and my serial starts with 517; I see a lot of used ones in the 156 and 159 serials so maybe they are just older? In regards to calibration, I don't have any idea what mine is at and I think it will be difficult for me to ever know for sure because I only have a film M. I guess I would have to take aperture and distance notes per frame to know for sure... and even then, I don't know how much I would notice focus shift on film. My only other lens is a 2/35 Biogon which is insanely sharp at all apertures and has no focus shift. Hope to be able to share a couple of photos here when I finish a roll! Haig 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 22, 2020 Share #130 Posted January 22, 2020 Don't worry - calibration issues are rare on film. It is more a digital thing. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haikos Posted January 22, 2020 Share #131 Posted January 22, 2020 52 minutes ago, jaapv said: Don't worry - calibration issues are rare on film. It is more a digital thing. I thought and hoped so! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted February 3, 2020 Share #132 Posted February 3, 2020 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Sonnar 1.5 /50 on M10D. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Sonnar 1.5 /50 on M10D. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/291595-zeiss-c-sonnar-5015-images/?do=findComment&comment=3905133'>More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted February 4, 2020 Share #133 Posted February 4, 2020 13 hours ago, Photon42 said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Sonnar 1.5 /50 on M10D. You have posted some very nice shots with the Sonnar 1.5/ 50, Ivo! Rob 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted February 4, 2020 Share #134 Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) Thanks, Rob .... I may keep the lens, actually. Was not sure in the beginning, but I really like the look. Edited February 4, 2020 by Photon42 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted February 4, 2020 Share #135 Posted February 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Photon42 said: Thanks, Rob .... I may keep the lens, actually. Was not sure in the beginning, but I really like the look. If you decide not to keep it, please send me a PM. Rob 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted February 5, 2020 Share #136 Posted February 5, 2020 I’m not sure either. I bought the lens expecting masses of character, but my impression so far is that it’s pretty well-behaved. It’s very sharp and distinct in the plane of focus, so much so that sometimes the subject is so sharply separated that the image looks like a Photoshop montage, with a person clipped artificially into a blurred background. The good parts are the build quality and lovely design details like the focus knurl. And also the color rendering - which is beautiful. Otherwise I feel the lens is very modern and in some ways just neutral. I ordered a Voigtländer 40 f1,4 to compare. Should have it over next couple days to see which I keep. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haikos Posted February 5, 2020 Share #137 Posted February 5, 2020 I think you will typically get more character out of the Voigtlander lineup than the ZM lineup. I am still in the middle of my first roll of film (portra 400) with my C Sonnar so I haven’t been able to see the results yet. My experience comes from what I see posted online between VM and ZM, and my own Biogon 2/35 which I would classify as clinically perfect, even too much at times. I’m excited to get this roll done and developed but in the dead of winter that can mean weeks to shoot a complete roll so here’s to patience! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted February 5, 2020 Share #138 Posted February 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, haikos said: I’m excited to get this roll done and developed but in the dead of winter that can mean weeks to shoot a complete roll so here’s to patience! That's what 'selfies' are for isn't it? 😂 Pete. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haikos Posted February 5, 2020 Share #139 Posted February 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, farnz said: That's what 'selfies' are for isn't it? 😂 Pete. Hahaha or cat photos 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted February 6, 2020 Share #140 Posted February 6, 2020 20 hours ago, plasticman said: I’m not sure either. I bought the lens expecting masses of character, but my impression so far is that it’s pretty well-behaved. It’s very sharp and distinct in the plane of focus, so much so that sometimes the subject is so sharply separated that the image looks like a Photoshop montage, with a person clipped artificially into a blurred background. The good parts are the build quality and lovely design details like the focus knurl. And also the color rendering - which is beautiful. Otherwise I feel the lens is very modern and in some ways just neutral. I ordered a Voigtländer 40 f1,4 to compare. Should have it over next couple days to see which I keep. Well-behavior is character, too 😂 I guess that separation is what others positively call three-dimensional effort. It is probably useful to experiment with different backgrounds a bit to further dig for "character". I like so far, and as with lots of other things, the focus shift aspect, while there, is manageable. Maybe not the ideal first lens for someone who just bought a rangefinder. The good thing nowadays is you can easily check your lens with a ruler and a target for the rangefinder and directly compare in the EVF (M240,M10). Then you know what to do when. On an EVF all that does not matter, of course. On longer distances all is fine anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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