haikos Posted February 25, 2023 Share #201 Posted February 25, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) I guess it depends if it sits on the shelf and you always use the summilux and have to force yourself to use the sonnar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 Hi haikos, Take a look here Zeiss C Sonnar 50/1.5 Images. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
haikos Posted February 25, 2023 Share #202 Posted February 25, 2023 M-E 220, C Sonnar 50mm @ f5.6 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/291595-zeiss-c-sonnar-5015-images/?do=findComment&comment=4700374'>More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted February 25, 2023 Share #203 Posted February 25, 2023 Traigh Rosamol, Isle of Harris. M10-R bp ZM 50mm c-sonnar f1.5 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 17 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/291595-zeiss-c-sonnar-5015-images/?do=findComment&comment=4700404'>More sharing options...
01maciel Posted February 26, 2023 Share #204 Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) M10 + Zeiss C Sonnar T* 50mm f1,5 ZM Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 26, 2023 by 01maciel Click to view properly 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/291595-zeiss-c-sonnar-5015-images/?do=findComment&comment=4701738'>More sharing options...
01maciel Posted March 8, 2023 Share #205 Posted March 8, 2023 M10 + Zeiss C Sonnar T* 50mm f1.5 ZM Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/291595-zeiss-c-sonnar-5015-images/?do=findComment&comment=4715443'>More sharing options...
robbie3 Posted March 9, 2023 Share #206 Posted March 9, 2023 Speed Chess, London M9, 50mm C-Sonnar at f/1.5 or f/1.7 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/291595-zeiss-c-sonnar-5015-images/?do=findComment&comment=4716506'>More sharing options...
shinobi2012 Posted March 10, 2023 Share #207 Posted March 10, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Am 19.2.2023 um 19:35 schrieb Olaf_ZG: Today someone offered to buy my sonnar. As I have a lux50asph, the lens might be redundant… I put it on the SL and now I have doubts. To sell or not? Love the look in this image, but might get it also with my lux. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Let me say, I had both lenses you mentioned and used them for many years. You will not get the same look, the Sonnar produces a coplretly different image, not only color, but the overall look is more pleasing. Mind you, first the Summilux 50 ASPH is impressive, but after a while you might realize, that it is just "too sharp" (sorry for the lack of words). to summarize (simplified): The Sonnar has Soul, the Summilux 50 ASPH is always perfect.... 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Vonn Posted March 10, 2023 Share #208 Posted March 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, shinobi2012 said: Let me say, I had both lenses you mentioned and used them for many years. You will not get the same look, the Sonnar produces a coplretly different image, not only color, but the overall look is more pleasing. Mind you, first the Summilux 50 ASPH is impressive, but after a while you might realize, that it is just "too sharp" (sorry for the lack of words). to summarize (simplified): The Sonnar has Soul, the Summilux 50 ASPH is always perfect.... Many thanks. There may be explanations elsewhere in this site but I haven't seen them, so nice to hear from a longstanding owner of both lenses as I was wondering the same thing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01maciel Posted March 10, 2023 Share #209 Posted March 10, 2023 I don't own a Summilux 50 asph so I can't compare the two lenses. IMHO the Sonnar is a small lens with a wonderful unique old-fashioned rendering. Zeiss should finally present a new fast 50mm lens (f/1.0). That would be it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/291595-zeiss-c-sonnar-5015-images/?do=findComment&comment=4718511'>More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted March 10, 2023 Share #210 Posted March 10, 2023 3 hours ago, shinobi2012 said: to summarize (simplified): The Sonnar has Soul, the Summilux 50 ASPH is always perfect.... I guess I should not sell my soul… 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollin Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share #211 Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ray Vonn said: Many thanks. There may be explanations elsewhere in this site but I haven't seen them, so nice to hear from a longstanding owner of both lenses as I was wondering the same thing. A lens with a true Sonnar optical formula has aspherical aberrations, which are a positive as that is how we get the beautiful rendering. You can not get this with a "perfect" lens. I appreciate that it holds true even when stopped down. Also, I appreciate Zeiss is giving us it with modern coatings in this lens. See the article linked in the second post of this thread: Edited March 10, 2023 by Rollin 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie3 Posted March 11, 2023 Share #212 Posted March 11, 2023 M9, C-Sonnar @ f/2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/291595-zeiss-c-sonnar-5015-images/?do=findComment&comment=4719435'>More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted March 11, 2023 Share #213 Posted March 11, 2023 The thread prompted me to take my C-Sonnar from its usual home on my M7 and put it to use on my M11 this morning. No chance of venturing out so it was a case of finding an indoor subject. M11 / C-Sonnar @ f1.5. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/291595-zeiss-c-sonnar-5015-images/?do=findComment&comment=4719580'>More sharing options...
lct Posted March 11, 2023 Share #214 Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) • Edited March 11, 2023 by lct Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinobi2012 Posted March 12, 2023 Share #215 Posted March 12, 2023 Am 10.3.2023 um 21:10 schrieb Rollin: A lens with a true Sonnar optical formula has aspherical aberrations, which are a positive as that is how we get the beautiful rendering. You can not get this with a "perfect" lens. I appreciate that it holds true even when stopped down. Also, I appreciate Zeiss is giving us it with modern coatings in this lens. See the article linked in the second post of this thread: Yes, exactly. It is like the Canon 50 L 1.2. This lens reminds me a lot to the Sonnar 1.5. A lens with a lot of Soul and beauty...We tend to gravitate first to "more perfect" , more megapixel, sharper, more resolution etc...but after a while, when we go back to the aestethics of photography, we realize that we don't need "better/sharper" etc... Thats why I sold all my digital Leica Ms, also all my ASPH lenses and kept the 50/1.5 Sonnar, the 40 C Summicron with my M3 and the Canon 50 1.2 (for my EOS 30). But that's just my personal journey.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinobi2012 Posted March 12, 2023 Share #216 Posted March 12, 2023 Am 10.3.2023 um 21:07 schrieb Olaf_ZG: I guess I should not sell my soul… Do not ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinobi2012 Posted March 12, 2023 Share #217 Posted March 12, 2023 Am 11.3.2023 um 10:49 schrieb robbie3: M9, C-Sonnar @ f/2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Really nice , the Sonnar and the CCD of the M9...magic combination - wonderful. As I mentioned above, similar magic like the Canon 50 L 1.2 with the 5DMII (digital). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie3 Posted March 12, 2023 Share #218 Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, shinobi2012 said: Really nice , the Sonnar and the CCD of the M9...magic combination - wonderful. As I mentioned above, similar magic like the Canon 50 L 1.2 with the 5DMII (digital). Thanks shinobi2012, I also have good memories of the Canon 50 f1.2L with 5DII. Both the Canon 5DII/50 f1.2L and the M9/50mm C-Sonnar seem to have a magical way of rendering reds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinobi2012 Posted March 12, 2023 Share #219 Posted March 12, 2023 vor 12 Minuten schrieb robbie3: Thanks shinobi2012, I also have good memories of the Canon 50 f1.2L with 5DII. Both the Canon 5DII/50 f1.2L and the M9/50mm C-Sonnar seem to have a magical way of rendering reds. I am glad that you feel and see the same. Yes, the reds, but also the overall appearance somehow has a feeling right out of the box. I know one can match and tweak colors. I used almost ever Leica M digital camera, The M9 and the mentioned Canon 5DM2 are my favorite digital Kameras in terms of colors ( I print a lot). I might get a M9 again and pair it with my Sonnar 🤩 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted March 12, 2023 Share #220 Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) Ref #213, I left the C-Sonnar on my M11 when going for a walk this morning around the NT's Kingston Lacy estate. The NT likes to provide points of interest for children. Two at f1.5:- Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 12, 2023 by Keith (M) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/291595-zeiss-c-sonnar-5015-images/?do=findComment&comment=4721209'>More sharing options...
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