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18 hours ago, Tailwagger said:

Grips aren't for everyone, but they are for me.  That said,  its perhaps worth mentioning that in general there is a technique to shooting with an M grip or no grip. Placing ones left hand, palm up, under the camera while gently holding in the right hand.  Both steadies the camera, while the reduced tension in the right hand enables a smoother shutter release. Helpful with low speed shooting as well. 

Yes I bought a grip but after a while preferred not to use it, although they are very desirable with Q and CL cameras. Try at your dealer's if possible, before commiting to an order.

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On 10/12/2018 at 6:09 AM, Astropap said:

 I’m going to try channeling my inner Warren Buffet to see if I can resist this urge.  The plunging stock market may help. 

Thanks for that. I laughed. Warren Buffett, the saint of patience for profit.

I don't the the stock market will influence Leica's prices.

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Well, the timing was bad for this rental.  I really didn't have much opportunity to take it out due to bad weather and some necessary home improvement projects.  I enjoyed the brief time I spent with it, though, except for the right-hand cramp.  I'm sure a grip would eliminate that problem.  Much easier to use than I was expecting.  

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9 hours ago, Astropap said:

Well, the timing was bad for this rental.  I really didn't have much opportunity to take it out due to bad weather and some necessary home improvement projects.  I enjoyed the brief time I spent with it, though, except for the right-hand cramp.  I'm sure a grip would eliminate that problem.  Much easier to use than I was expecting.  

I've used my M10 with and without the grip, and have to say the grip does make it easy to swing the camera up to the eye and shoot.  I also use a Thumbs Up, and in conjunction with the grip, I never have to fear losing my grip on the camera.  I've attached a photo (taken with my Q). 

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Yes. An M roady to remove the lens cap for him.

 

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On 10/11/2018 at 2:52 PM, schattenundlicht said:

You won‘t become famous by forgetting to take off the lens cap, but you will be in famous company ;)

http://leicaphilia.com/eric-clapton-forgets-to-take-the-lens-cap-off-his-leica/

Posh Spice too! They all follow our lead.

 

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On 10/11/2018 at 4:44 PM, Alex U. said:

That still happens to me. Don't worry.

We have all done that. For me, the give away was that the shutter took a long time to close.

All of my lenses have the Leica standard lens hoods, therefore, I don't use the lens cap except when storing my camera.

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Hah! We have all done that.

For me, the immediate telltale sign was the shutter taking forever to close.

All of my lenses have the Leica-supplied lens hoods, therefore, I don't use lens caps unless I am storing the camera when not being used.

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On 10/12/2018 at 4:09 AM, Astropap said:

Yeah, I know.  I was just hoping that a short trial run would cure any desire to get one and that hasn’t happened.  I’m going to try channeling my inner Warren Buffet to see if I can resist this urge.  The plunging stock market may help. 

If anything, a plunging stock market should motivate you to take your hard earned money and enjoy it instead of letting it vaporize into nothing at the whim of wall street.

 

If you are going to see your money devalue, then you may as well enjoy it during the process.

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A one-time girlfriend borrowed my camera (Zeiss Ikonta film, back then) to shoot a friend's wedding. No pics resulted as lens cap was in  place throughout.

 

I had a comparable panic moment earlier this week when my Q started taking bleached out outdoor pics. Removed battery, waited. Same thing happened. Reset camera (date, time, all that stuff) then spotted top dial had been nudged from A to 1/4s without my being aware.

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On 10/29/2018 at 6:35 PM, Brian C in Az said:

If you are going to see your money devalue, then you may as well enjoy it during the process.

Depends upon your portfolio. :)We Buffett people call that enabling behavior. Well, if you got it, go for it. Not me.

 

 

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The M seems to be a one way road for many photographers, eventually. In 1975 when I got my first SLR I decided not to touch a rangefinder again. Well, in 2005, after going fully digital a few years earlier, I purchased an M6TTL, after that an M9 and now the M10... Never used a lens cap since the 70s either. A UV filter or lens protector (clear glass) on every lens works, at least for me (just remember to keep it clean). Even if I have a built-in grip on most of my other cameras I have never felt a need for one on an M, although it's quite heavy. Maybe because I always use a strap to carry it. 

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On 10/11/2018 at 10:18 PM, Astropap said:

Also funny. Unfortunately, that ship has already sailed. I was planning to trade my Q and X Vario for a CL. Now I’m not sure. That would certainly be a more sensible move than getting the M. Hard to justify the expense of the M, especially for my low level of skill. 

I agree with others that skill comes with use.  If you can do it, I'd strongly recommend getting an M10 and one decent lens (35mm or 50mm Summarit is a really good starting point).  Spend a couple of years working with a focal length (😎) and if you're happy with the results, you might want to get a second FL (if you have 50, get 28.  If you have 35 get 70).  Go slowly and you'll experience less buyer's remorse - and maybe take some worthwhile photos ...

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