leica dream Posted October 11, 2018 Share #1 Posted October 11, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) What is the preferred mid-range screen calibration software these days? I note there is a difference between gelatine and glass models, and my old Spyder 3 needs replacing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zeitz Posted October 12, 2018 Share #2 Posted October 12, 2018 Your question is rather jumbled. The Spyder 3 is hardware, not software. When you buy screen calibration hardware, it comes with its own software. Also I don't know what you mean by "a difference between gelatin and glass models". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted October 12, 2018 Share #3 Posted October 12, 2018 As far as I know from coleagues in the photo club the Spyder is still the most used tool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricC Posted October 12, 2018 Share #4 Posted October 12, 2018 I use the ColorMunki. Great for profiling your whole system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 12, 2018 Share #5 Posted October 12, 2018 NEC monitors work well with SpectraView II, which can be pre-installed on various models along with provided hardware. Not inexpensive, but more budget friendly than Eizo. Mine has been working well for 9 years. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica dream Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share #6 Posted October 13, 2018 Zeitz, for me it is the software which requires specific hardware on the screen and they are a pair. As for gelatine versus glass, some cheaper packages use gelatine filters in the hardware elements rather than glass. Gelatine has a more limited life of accuracy before deterioration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted October 14, 2018 Share #7 Posted October 14, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Interesting, LD. I use an Eizo monitor with built-in sensor and Eizo software. I wonder what it uses. And I love the Eizo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nowhereman Posted October 14, 2018 Share #8 Posted October 14, 2018 Another question is whether and how a different approach, or equipment, is best used for a highly adjustable external monitor, like an Eizo, vs. the built-in monitor of a portable computer like the MacBook Pro, which has only a brightness control. _______________Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN MagazineNowhereman Instagram Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted October 14, 2018 Share #9 Posted October 14, 2018 Actually the question which few actually ask is about the viability of calibration versus experience and/or the need for 'accuracy' and its 'tolerance'. I used to calibrate everything but I have now given up and rely one 'learning' my screen and the outputs required. Not viable for 'absolute' colour requirements (oddly enough I'm working on such a requirement for a customer at the moment and all we are really able to do is ensure that at point of supply, the colour is as 'accurate' as we can practically ensure. I see few 'absolute' workflows and in all honesty few of us genuinely need them. The variables involved in ensuring 'accurate' colour reproduction require far more than simple screen calibration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted October 14, 2018 Share #10 Posted October 14, 2018 The camera / lens combination profile, the screen calibration, and the printer profile for a specific printer / paper have to be correct for accurate color. Of these I think the printer / paper profile is the hardest. But you are right that accurate color is not always the objective and may not even be desirable in most cases. However, I do like to have the printer to match what I see on the screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted October 14, 2018 Share #11 Posted October 14, 2018 Exactly. It was frustration with my inability to make my prints look like the colour I saw on screen that persuaded me to calibrate both screen and printer. I'm less worried by absolute colour accuracy than predictable results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Albertson Posted October 18, 2018 Share #12 Posted October 18, 2018 If you like the results you get with the Spyder 3, see what the cost of an upgrade might be. I have the Spyder 4, and they're always emailing with upgrade offers. I'm fine with version 4, I calibrate my monitor weekly (probably not strictly necessary) and like the consistency I get printing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica dream Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share #13 Posted October 23, 2018 Thank you everyone - I opted for the Colormunki Display. Next issue is building a printer profile to ensure correct hard copy, but the Colormunki Display will not do that, they tell me I need a spectrophotometer but they seem very expensive and I could not justify the cost. Has anyone found a way to profile the printer which is less expensive. I have heard there might be a service somewhere that one can send a printed colour chart to and they return an appropriate profile for a given printer model but I do not know where that is. A UK/EU contact would be particularly useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted October 23, 2018 Share #14 Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, leica dream said: Thank you everyone - I opted for the Colormunki Display. Next issue is building a printer profile to ensure correct hard copy, but the Colormunki Display will not do that, they tell me I need a spectrophotometer but they seem very expensive and I could not justify the cost. Has anyone found a way to profile the printer which is less expensive. I have heard there might be a service somewhere that one can send a printed colour chart to and they return an appropriate profile for a given printer model but I do not know where that is. A UK/EU contact would be particularly useful. https://www.permajet.com/Products/PermaJet-ICC-Profiling-Services-for-Inkjet-Papers If you only want a few papers profiled this is cheaper than buying your own spectrophotometer. If you buy their own paper, profiling is free. In fact you can get quite a lot of papers profiled before it's worth buying the hardware yourself. Edited October 23, 2018 by LocalHero1953 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricC Posted October 23, 2018 Share #15 Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) The version i have is the ColorMunki Photo. Here : https://www.xrite.com/categories/calibration-profiling/colormunki-photo This comes complete with the hardware to profile your display and printer. Edited October 23, 2018 by EricC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica dream Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share #16 Posted October 24, 2018 Thank you , Paul, for that link. Looks quite similar to another outfit I found called "Pure Profiles". As you say, it will be better probably for me to submit occasional orders instead of buying my own device. I think, Eric, that I made a mistake by getting just the "display" option instead of the "photo" version. I guess that comes with lack of experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricC Posted October 24, 2018 Share #17 Posted October 24, 2018 That is a shame, if you have just purchased it can you return the version you have for the Photo version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted October 30, 2018 Share #18 Posted October 30, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 2:21 AM, Nowhereman said: Another question is whether and how a different approach, or equipment, is best used for a highly adjustable external monitor, like an Eizo, vs. the built-in monitor of a portable computer like the MacBook Pro, which has only a brightness control. _______________Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN MagazineNowhereman Instagram What do you mean? You can can change the color profile and everything else on your MBP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted October 30, 2018 Share #19 Posted October 30, 2018 MBP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted October 30, 2018 Share #20 Posted October 30, 2018 Mac Book Pro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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