and Sigma's Roadmap

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On their press conference this evening Sigma announced their roadmap for nativ L mount lenses - "starting 2019" - this looks much better for SL owners than the other two roadmaps

 

(and there will be a "lens conversion service" to L mount too)

 

 

 

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[helged]

Good! (except for no long lenses, that is...)

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[FrancoC]

Impressive

[FlashGordonPhotography]

That 105 will be sweeeet on the SL.

 

Gordon

[FlashGordonPhotography]

Good! (except for no long lenses, that is...)

 

 

Lens conversion might allow the 150-600 sport to be converted.....

 

Gordon

[Wojtek]

Good! (except for no long lenses, that is...)

 

 

"Good"... I'm not a photography history major but I wouldn't be surprised is it was the most intense / aggressive / complete lens roadmap in the history of photography. Of course I can be wrong (probably not and if I am - not much). But it's infinitely better than "21/2, 24/2 and 28/2 for 2020". 

Sigma keeps doing the best job in lens market. Pretty clever btw that in those full frame mirrorless wars, sigma is a major supplier to every single side of the battle (Sony Nikon Canon Leica Panasonic, but Nikon/Canon via adapter right now)

[helged]

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I am a litte reluctant to get the Sigma ART 14mm f1.8 converted from Nikon F to L mount; I tested 3 copies for astro photography, one of which was a clear no-keeper, one was ok-ish and the third quite good - more here...

 

 

The Sigma ART 135mm f1.8 is excellent, but I sold this as the 24-90 SL was more or less glued to the SL at that time.

 

"Good"... I'm not a photography history major but I wouldn't be surprised is it was the most intense / aggressive / complete lens roadmap in the history of photography. Of course I can be wrong (probably not and if I am - not much). But it's infinitely better than "21/2, 24/2 and 28/2 for 2020". 

Sigma keeps doing the best job in lens market. Pretty clever btw that in those full frame mirrorless wars, sigma is a major supplier to every single side of the battle (Sony Nikon Canon Leica Panasonic, but Nikon/Canon via adapter right now)

 

 

Agree. 'Excellent' would be more appropriate. I guess I was disappointed about no long lens in the lineup.

 

Lens conversion might allow the 150-600 sport to be converted.....

 

Gordon

 

Good point. Ideally I would prefer an optically better lens, and also f4 rather than f5-6.3. So I hope for a new designed, long prime, for instance 400mm f2.8 or 500mm/600mm at f4 or thereabout. Or an improved long zoom, extending to 500mm.

 

Presently I use the (excellent) Nikkor 400mm f2.8E with converters for long reach/wildlife. This lens is large, but quite handhold-able. Once/if there are optically good, long L-mount lens alternatives with stabilisation and acceptable af available, I would gladly sell off the Nikon stuff.

[BernardC]

One interesting detail: the three lenses on the left of the top row are APS-C. Will Sigma be releasing an APS-C camera with L mount, or do the plan to sell those lenses to CL and TL owners?

 

Does anybody know if the 30/1.4 is the same lens they were selling 10 years ago? I tried it then and it wasn't very good.

[oudjunk]

That is interesting for me. I'm interested in 135 f1.8 and 105 f1.4 but I have to pick for one lens and the wide angle lens 16 f1.4 is too sweet for me  

so excited to try it.

[Vieri]

That is interesting for me. I'm interested in 135 f1.8 and 105 f1.4 but I have to pick for one lens and the wide angle lens 16 f1.4 is too sweet for me

so excited to try it.

 

 

That would be an APS-C lens though, not FF Best regards,

 

Vieri

[mmradman]

That would be an APS-C lens though, not FF Best regards,

 

Vieri

+1

 

Sigma can launch new lenses quickly by modifying existing optical designs to different lens barrel, as they did with current CanNikon models adopted to to Sony E mount.  As a result lens became bigger or received built in lens adaptor to adjust for difference in registry - some 20mm or more.

 

 

On the other hand if Sigma proceed to design form the ground up for a camera with short registry, like Voightlander extra wide 10-12-15mm for the M mount/ Sony E Mount we could expect some interesting lenses, only this will take time.

[Irakly Shanidze]

"Good"... I'm not a photography history major but I wouldn't be surprised is it was the most intense / aggressive / complete lens roadmap in the history of photography. Of course I can be wrong (probably not and if I am - not much). But it's infinitely better than "21/2, 24/2 and 28/2 for 2020". 

Sigma keeps doing the best job in lens market. Pretty clever btw that in those full frame mirrorless wars, sigma is a major supplier to every single side of the battle (Sony Nikon Canon Leica Panasonic, but Nikon/Canon via adapter right now)

 

 

Image quality standards that Leica imposes in the SL lens lineup is unprecedented. Of course, it comes at cost not only monetary, but of time needed to perfect each lens. Sigma does a great job with its Art lenses, yet Leica optics is simply better. Now we will have a choice of excellent and the best.

[Vieri]

+1

 

Sigma can launch new lenses quickly by modifying existing optical designs to different lens barrel, as they did with current CanNikon models adopted to to Sony E mount.  As a result lens became bigger or received built in lens adaptor to adjust for difference in registry - some 20mm or more.

 

 

On the other hand if Sigma proceed to design form the ground up for a camera with short registry, like Voightlander extra wide 10-12-15mm for the M mount/ Sony E Mount we could expect some interesting lenses, only this will take time.

 

 

Exactly. It is great to get excited by Sigma's promised L lineup, and some of their new Art lenses are pretty good (though I agree with Irakly on this one - Leica's are better), but before bashing Leica for being slow, let's keep in mind that all Sigma needs to do to have dozens of L lenses ready is to add a built-in adapter to physically make their lens work with L mount bodies, and add a chip in to manage communication / AF / diaphragm. Designing a full line-up of lenses for a new mount would be (and is, as Leica shows) a completely different endeavour - and one that takes much more time.

 

Best regards,

 

Vieri

[FrozenInTime]

Some small lenses for SL would be nice - seems like just more large fast SL lenses.

Some small wide TL would especially hit the spot nicely where adapted M cannot go.

Interesting in the group photo with Sigma, Leica , Panasonic ; Dr Kaufmann‘s SL has a M lens mounted on it.

https://goo.gl/images/NL2ZMY

[mmradman]

Some small lenses for SL would be nice - seems like just more large fast SL lenses.

Some small wide TL would especially hit the spot nicely where adapted M cannot go.

Interesting in the group photo with Sigma, Leica , Panasonic ; Dr Kaufmann‘s SL has a M lens mounted on it.

https://goo.gl/images/NL2ZMY

 

Gentleman likes carrying small pistol and leaves bazookas to others.

[jaapv]

It should give the SL system quite a boost.

[Chaemono]

Those who have seen how the Sigma Art lenses perform know that they are good enough for the new upcoming 47 MPx L-mount sensor. We all agree that they are great value for money. I went out today with the 5DS R + Sigma Art 50/1.4 and the SL + 50 Summilux-SL and wanted to post some comparisons here. At the end, I was a bit frustrated to find out that with the Canon body I used the Sigma lens front-focused almost all the time wide open in the the center with AF. The AF is basically useless for this combo. Apparently, this issue is very prevalent for DSLRs as 'dis' dude below explains in the first few minutes:

 

 

This is not the way the SL primes work. We don't need to try ten lenses in a store to see which one fits best with our SL body. SL lenses are pinpoint accurate where the focus point is placed wide open every time. I will try again and use the Art lens with an adapter on the SL, possible focusing it manually, but I would still like to share some files to show what the issue today was.

 

First, the one legged ducky here enjoying the morning sun. Only with the SL and Summilux-SL. The Sigma pictures, and I took about ten of them, were all front-focused. 

 

Ducky DNG (go ahead and crop about 15 percent on the right side):

https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g917523060-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=aqrHjqP6jVWLMloTxGcckkSnQsqn1Xx94Isk5sdrWXQ=

 

And now you'll see what the issue is.

 

5DS R + Sigma Art 50/1.4 CR2 - focus is on 'Made in China.'

https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g966060329-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=WhGIIddPKb_sUyV3d2aCdQyaTfQP9okvJKLZnlvDzr8=

SL + 50 Summilux-SL DNG - pinpoint accurate.

https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g621771942-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=IibPBIP6SXiBQxJG7ahZb7BgfQRYcIioE4Mq-MjMQ9A=

 

5DS R + Sigma Art 50/1.4 CR2 - focus is on the back of the bike saddle, combo front-focuses.

https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g959513645-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=tnh7Xd-hVJk5po1vdj852JMTaQBM55brHIs_r9OUk2E=

SL + 50 Summilux-SL DNG - pinpoint accurate.

https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g895321650-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=-qF3cNgxESu_DLpC9Czuhk98VCd-VgosGUkv2_bx86A=

 

5DS R + Sigma Art 50/1.4 CR2 - nice rendering by the Sigma lens and it's acceptably sharp off-center, I believe.

https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g966171754-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=pvO8d6uX0Q4Rx8OCr9HXDoWL9qARUTZDJQp0_O9xwXo=

 

5DS R + Sigma Art 50/1.4 CR2 - but not as sharp as the Leica lens. Fewer cat eyes, though, I suspect. Need to check (and remember this is 50 MPx vs. 24 MPx).

https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g748236516-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=mFF6sgZE_cRLFjA7f4jPNY7Wo4ZcO66dAWQhwNeHDDc=

SL + 50 Summilux-SL DNG - Zeiss Otus sharpness wide open also off-center.

https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g1024609020-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=KgYpcc6qcGax0i4NgLWcz1bTJVnCLoKTD6zlMYEz7gM=

 

5DS R + Sigma Art 50/1.4 CR2

https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g807031110-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=fciiHAXNpRKwqfIVzQuytSAMXV7k0GH3c80aPn23Xxw=

SL + 50 Summilux-SL DNG

https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g897343533-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=Eqn6pVA9-hothEyMoBJJkG_Mte545a2wgsuBCJ1J6Zs=

 

5DS R + Sigma Art 50/1.4 CR2 - looks soft probably because of front-focusing.

https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g1034552204-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=Kb5wIfsN_Q0ER2SJ6ysiJDhVqcTCfrfzxtWhCuq-1pc=

SL + 50 Summilux-SL DNG - delivers every time.

https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g848502301-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=erqy6JCO0O3eawuOFMUAS4PaDz-aJavYtc0y6UIhdfE=

[caissa]

Sigma shows a lot of fast lenses, but actually I am more interested in their longer macro lenses (150mm or 180mm) and their teles (120-300, or even a really long one (500 or 600 mm)).

But ok, the 1.4/28mm looks also promising. And the 135 is interesting, because Leica will probably need a few years before they offer it.

[jaapv]

However, their long lenses for APS, which would interest me, are not cheap, between 3500 $ and 6500 $ ...

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Hallo,

Look here: Leica L-Mount

[helged]

However, their long lenses for APS, which would interest me, are not cheap, between 3500 $ and 6500 $ ...

But they do exist... And the top-end, long CaNikSon lenses are expensive, usd10000+.