philipus Posted September 23, 2018 Share #1 Posted September 23, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I will be taking delivery of a Canon Pro 1000 soon and am curious about papers. I've previously used an Epson R1900 with Epson papers, mainly the semi-glossy variety, but I'm interesting in exploring other brands. I'd be very interested in hearing how other 'printers' think when choosing papers for images - colour, black and white, subject matter etc. I realise this is a bit of a blurry question but hopefully it's enough to get the discussion going. Thanks a lot in advance. Philip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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elmars Posted September 24, 2018 Share #2 Posted September 24, 2018 I love Moab paper, especially Entrada natural and Entrada bright. The first one is for a warm impression, the last one for a cool, bright, more contrasty impression. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted September 24, 2018 Share #3 Posted September 24, 2018 A useful resource is the A4 box of assorted papers some manufacturers produce. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2018 Share #4 Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) A useful resource is the A4 box of assorted papers some manufacturers produce. Thats a good solution and one of the best places to source it and many others is http://www.on-linepaper.co.uk They are a fairly small company but carry a wide range of brands.Alex is usually on hand to give advice and any guidance if required.He has an extensive knowledge of photographic paper and is always keen to help. Their prices are very competitive.Personally I always use Hahnemuhle paper and use different paper profiles for Colour , B and W and the lighting conditions the print will be displayed in.The paper profiles in my case are provided with my printer software and it does make a difference . Edited September 24, 2018 by Guest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 24, 2018 Share #5 Posted September 24, 2018 Try the Canson line of papers, particularly the Infinity Baryta Photographique...more consistent paper than the often recommended Ilford Gold Fibre Silk. Reminds me of my darkroom papers. I also prefer Canson’s paper handling to Hahnemuhle. There are many useful threads on this topic via search. Best advice, though, is to try some and stick with what you like for a while. It takes time to get to know papers, and to determine which ones suit various goals and preferences. There are many good choices these days. Lighting and display conditions are also key... but that’s another discussion. Jeff 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted September 24, 2018 Share #6 Posted September 24, 2018 Congratulations on the Canon Pro 1000. My experience with the printer has been that a lot of the set-up cartridge ink goes into the maintenance tray. If you cannot get supplies locally, you may want to order ink and a maintenance tray soon. Although I've had my Canon Pro 1000 some months, I've only printed on Office Depot's cheapest glossy paper. I'm very please with the result because my past Canon pigment ink printer (iPF 5100) made terrible glossy prints. Now I need to stop taking pictures and start printing. Papers I'm looking forward to trying are Epson's Exhibition Fiber (splendid D-max) and Pictorico White Glossy Film (glossiest/sharpest "paper" made; not paper actually, ceramic dust in plastic). Pictorico White Film can be nasty without the right profile. I used a lot of Hahnemuehle Photo Rag Ultra Smooth with the iPF 5100. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted September 27, 2018 Author Share #7 Posted September 27, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thank you very much everybody for chiming in. I really appreciate it. I wasn't aware of this brand so thanks for suggesting it Elmar. I love Moab paper, especially Entrada natural and Entrada bright. The first one is for a warm impression, the last one for a cool, bright, more contrasty impression. Thank you, another thing I didn't know exists. A useful resource is the A4 box of assorted papers some manufacturers produce. Thanks Brian, that seems to be an excellent site. And they have several of those test packs too. Thats a good solution and one of the best places to source it and many others is http://www.on-linepaper.co.uk They are a fairly small company but carry a wide range of brands.Alex is usually on hand to give advice and any guidance if required.He has an extensive knowledge of photographic paper and is always keen to help. Their prices are very competitive.Personally I always use Hahnemuhle paper and use different paper profiles for Colour , B and W and the lighting conditions the print will be displayed in.The paper profiles in my case are provided with my printer software and it does make a difference . Thanks Jeff, I'll be sure to try the Canson papers. That Baryta Photographique is included in their test pack. And you describe exactly what I have in mind, to find those I like and stick with those. Try the Canson line of papers, particularly the Infinity Baryta Photographique...more consistent paper than the often recommended Ilford Gold Fibre Silk. Reminds me of my darkroom papers. I also prefer Canson’s paper handling to Hahnemuhle.There are many useful threads on this topic via search. Best advice, though, is to try some and stick with what you like for a while. It takes time to get to know papers, and to determine which ones suit various goals and preferences. There are many good choices these days.Lighting and display conditions are also key... but that’s another discussion.Jeff Haha, yes I have read that there can be a certain amount of ink dumping with this printer but I read on GetDPI that a lot can be fixed through the settings. I really look forward to having this printer. I'll pick it up on Monday and check if they have an extra ink set in stock. Congratulations on the Canon Pro 1000. My experience with the printer has been that a lot of the set-up cartridge ink goes into the maintenance tray. If you cannot get supplies locally, you may want to order ink and a maintenance tray soon. Although I've had my Canon Pro 1000 some months, I've only printed on Office Depot's cheapest glossy paper. I'm very please with the result because my past Canon pigment ink printer (iPF 5100) made terrible glossy prints. Now I need to stop taking pictures and start printing. Papers I'm looking forward to trying are Epson's Exhibition Fiber (splendid D-max) and Pictorico White Glossy Film (glossiest/sharpest "paper" made; not paper actually, ceramic dust in plastic). Pictorico White Film can be nasty without the right profile. I used a lot of Hahnemuehle Photo Rag Ultra Smooth with the iPF 5100. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share #8 Posted October 2, 2018 Thanks again for the replies. I was at Photokina the other day and managed to buy some Hahnemühle sample pack. Now I'm trying to figure out how to make paper profiles for the includes papers. I know there's the Media Config tool and on Canon's site I have found a bunch of ICC profiles for third-party papers. But there are a number of unknown factors, like paper thickness, which black is to be used etc. Has anyone of you done this with the Canon Pro-1000 and could give me some pointers? Thanks a lot in advance. Philip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted October 2, 2018 Share #9 Posted October 2, 2018 The Hahnemühle site has profiles not sure for which printers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2018 Share #10 Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) On 10/2/2018 at 3:06 PM, philipus said: Thanks again for the replies. I was at Photokina the other day and managed to buy some Hahnemühle sample pack. Now I'm trying to figure out how to make paper profiles for the includes papers. I know there's the Media Config tool and on Canon's site I have found a bunch of ICC profiles for third-party papers. But there are a number of unknown factors, like paper thickness, which black is to be used etc. Has anyone of you done this with the Canon Pro-1000 and could give me some pointers? Thanks a lot in advance. Philip I make some of my own paper profiles and use the i1pro system.To be fair the main reason I bought it was I had an offer for the complete kit at less than half the recommended retail price.After selling my colormunki which I was never able to get on with, my net cost was about 30% of retail, it so it worked out a good deal. However the way I have finally solved any issues with paper thickness, which black, which paper profile for Colour / Black and White, display lighting, etc etc etc is to use IP10 ( black) by colorbyte. I am using the Epson P800 but I believe the Canon Pro will be just as good and IP10 is supported.I have no intension of getting into any debate about IP but if anyone is seriously interested send me a pm or do the free trial. ColorByte are also a great company to work with if you have any issues. Edited October 17, 2018 by Guest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesL Posted November 10, 2018 Share #11 Posted November 10, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 7:06 AM, philipus said: ... paper profiles ... You can get into making your own profiles. First, though, try the profile from the paper manufacturer. Many are very good. I use the Canson and Moab profiles for their papers. (The vendor also tells you the thickness and the paper choice to make in the printer dialog as well as matte or photo black ink.) But if you do not like them, you can have a custom profile made for your printer and selected paper for about U.S.$25. You download a file from the service, print it and mail it in; the service shop makes the profile and emails it to you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted November 10, 2018 Share #12 Posted November 10, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 9:56 PM, philipus said: I will be taking delivery of a Canon Pro 1000 soon and am curious about papers. I've previously used an Epson R1900 with Epson papers, mainly the semi-glossy variety, but I'm interesting in exploring other brands. I'd be very interested in hearing how other 'printers' think when choosing papers for images - colour, black and white, subject matter etc. I realise this is a bit of a blurry question but hopefully it's enough to get the discussion going. Thanks a lot in advance. Philip It's difficult to recommend papers without knowing your personal preferences or the intended end use, so the advice to try a few sample packs is good.. I regularly sell prints and I use two types of Fotospeed paper to give a choice of either baryta (semi-gloss) or platinum etching (cotton 'art' paper). It's a good idea to make a decision and stick with it to know what really works best for you. Fotospeed will provide you with free custom profiles for their own inks and papers with a quick turn around . I also use Fotospeed bulk inksets and the quality of my prints is consistently good, so I'm happy with my choice of ink and paper. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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