bah212 Posted September 21, 2018 Share #1 Posted September 21, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Can someone please help me identify the version of my Summicron 50. I bought it new with my M4 in 1976. The serial number is 2445701 which I have determined is from 1970, and I believed it to be a version 3. In anticipation of selling it I recently sent it to a well known used camera dealer. They claim it is a Summicron Rigid which has a lower value. Any help is appreciated. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 21, 2018 Posted September 21, 2018 Hi bah212, Take a look here What version Summicron 50 is this?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
bah212 Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share #2 Posted September 21, 2018 here is a photo. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/289690-what-version-summicron-50-is-this/?do=findComment&comment=3597169'>More sharing options...
pedaes Posted September 21, 2018 Share #3 Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) It is not a Summicron "Rigid" (Version II) - which would in fact be worth considerable more in black than your 1970 Third Version. Edited September 21, 2018 by pedaes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregm61 Posted September 21, 2018 Share #4 Posted September 21, 2018 I have/had one of those 50's. gave it to a friend. It's probably the least expensive of all the 50 Summicrons made since the early 1960's. A chrome "rigid" in good shape should be worth quite a bit more than this lens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bah212 Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share #5 Posted September 21, 2018 Thanks, it is likely either the sales agent ( who was not the person who evaluated thew Lens) or I misunderstood. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 21, 2018 Share #6 Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) Don't worry… fact is that there is not an "official" version numbering of the Summicron 50... defining yours a 3rd version is imho correct (1st= collapsible - 2nd=rigid 7 elements - 3rd=rigid 6 elements) but...what about the Dual Range ? Is it another version ? (imho, is correct to define it as a "variant of the 2nd version"… but it too, by itself, had a pair of variants… ). So i prefer the rule of : - Version (start from 1) - (possible) variant of a certain version, which co-exists and is co-produced within the version (the DR, for instance, or simply the finishing black/chrome or scale feet/meters… or the "special edition"…) - Revision of a certain Version (start from 0) , which supersedes the previous one. On this basis. Your lens is Revision 1 of the 3rd Version (Revision 0 - less common - has a knurled focus ring similar to v2) - common indeed. Anyway, any Summicron 50 of any version , is a "hats off" great classic, regardless of rarity. Edited September 21, 2018 by luigi bertolotti Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
schattenundlicht Posted September 23, 2018 Share #7 Posted September 23, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) And don‘t be too disappointed by a low trade-in value, it has seen some action (propably „B/C“). It might be advisable to keep it, instead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 23, 2018 Share #8 Posted September 23, 2018 Was my first 50/2 in 1971. Got it with my first Leica, a gorgeous M4. Too bad i sold them. I seem to recall that 50/2 v3 has less CA and more flare than v4 and v5 but i'm not sure my memory serves me well. The lens can be 6-bit coded but there is a screw in the way of the coding sensor. DIY coding may be difficult then but i have no experience of it. FWIW. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/289690-what-version-summicron-50-is-this/?do=findComment&comment=3598125'>More sharing options...
willeica Posted September 23, 2018 Share #9 Posted September 23, 2018 http://collectiblend.com/Lenses/Leitz/50mm-f2-Summicron-(BM,-black,-11817).html You will need to know how to interpret this. You will see that there is quite a range of different prices at auction for this item. There is no such thing as a 'correct value' for such items. In truth, as with all such items, the value is what someone else is prepared to pay for it and there is not much you can do about that. Based on the photo above, this item would fall very much into the 'average' category or perhaps somewhat below that. William Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted September 23, 2018 Share #10 Posted September 23, 2018 Here is no any M lens which has lower value. Get it back. And learn how to evaluate at your own. Every time I go to dealer I know... He checks it ... On EBay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 23, 2018 Share #11 Posted September 23, 2018 Here is no any M lens which has lower value. Get it back…. Why ? the OP bought it 42 years ago... and by any evidence used it regularly… depends on if and which other lens he whishes to take… Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted September 23, 2018 Share #12 Posted September 23, 2018 Why ? the OP bought it 42 years ago... and by any evidence used it regularly… depends on if and which other lens he whishes to take… So what? Where are plenty of M lenses exactly like this. And they are not sold as low value lens. At least on eBay. Dealers is different story. They buy for less, selling for more. Some are honest and it is obvious why they have to. But some will tell you stories. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted September 23, 2018 Share #13 Posted September 23, 2018 Was my first 50/2 in 1971. Got it with my first Leica, a gorgeous M4. Too bad i sold them. I seem to recall that 50/2 v3 has less CA and more flare than v4 and v5 but i'm not sure my memory serves me well. The lens can be 6-bit coded but there is a screw in the way of the coding sensor. DIY coding may be difficult then but i have no experience of it. FWIW. Looks just like mine (serial 2294x..) that I bought in 1969 for my M4. These early type 3 had a red paint dot on the flange instead of a raised red plastic dot. I added a small plastic dot from DAG that fits the recess for the paint dot, for a tactile locator. I did hand code mine with a sharpie and template, and it worked in spite of the flange screw, but the marks have since worn off.I find performance very similar to the v5 I added a few years ago - a very nice lens indeed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.