trequartista Posted September 20, 2018 Share #1 Posted September 20, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello I used my Leica M10 with the original strap for one weekend and it already caused wear on the sides of my camera. I think it's quite a pity to buy a expensive camera and use it with original accessories which actually causes that so quickly. Now I changed to another. Do you think I could blame Leica for it? I generally don't mind if there is wear and tear, but first of all I want to be responsible of it and second the black version does not really look good if the surface gets wear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Nowhereman Posted September 20, 2018 Share #2 Posted September 20, 2018 Not sure on what basis you think you could blame Leica for this. Sorry, but life is too short to worry about camera scratches. Also, I think that any camera strap would have caused the same type of minute marks. If you were so concerned about chafing from a camera strap you would have done better to buy a silver chrome camera, which has a more durable finish. The other thing, of course, is that cameras are made to be used and minor marks and scratches are so trivial that... _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted September 21, 2018 Share #3 Posted September 21, 2018 Get a half case if you are worried about wear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted September 21, 2018 Share #4 Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) Yep. A worn black finish devalues a Leica. A typical example here. Edited September 21, 2018 by pico 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted September 21, 2018 Share #5 Posted September 21, 2018 Another reason to stay with my M-240 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted September 21, 2018 Share #6 Posted September 21, 2018 but first of all I want to be responsible of it and second the black version does not really look good if the surface gets wear. The new very matt black finishes that Leica use will polish up to a sheen with first use. But it isn't really 'wear', it is the oils from the strap and oils your skin that add a sheen to the surface of the camera. When you've handled it for a few weeks the whole thing will have a sheen to it. So if it's a big problem for you put some black tape on the corners of the camera because any strap will do the same thing, there is nothing wrong with Leica's own strap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaec421 Posted September 21, 2018 Share #7 Posted September 21, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was having the same issue... After a very short period since I got it in April 2017, I noticed the point of contact on the plate was getting scratched... My solution was just to put pieces of black tape on both sides.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted September 21, 2018 Share #8 Posted September 21, 2018 A Leica camera is not a jewel, it's a camera. Cameras get wear from use and abuse by users. If you don't want any wear or dirt on your camera, keep it in the box, in its packing, and take photos with your iPhone. Then you'll have a perfectly beautiful Leica and you'll get some photos too. I mean, who can care whether your iPhone has a scratch or two on it. It's a phone, for gosh sake... 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
schattenundlicht Posted September 21, 2018 Share #9 Posted September 21, 2018 My M10 from one of the first batches has some minor abrasion near the strap lugs after some heavy use, which I would never even have bothered to discover, if it were not for this thread - and about which, sorry to say, I could not care less. My M9 has a dent in the top plate which was entirely my own fault (banged against a rock during a climb, but got wonderful pictures). My M7 from 2002 is slightly brassed on all edges. It is not a showcase prop. My vintage cameras are in good but original condition, meaning that they proudly exhibit some blemishes after nearly a century of being used for what they were being made for in the first place. All my bodies and lenses are technically in perfect condtion, the optical elements are free from any fault, that is what matters to me. I am not a rogue with my gear but I do not make a fetish of it, either. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted September 21, 2018 Share #10 Posted September 21, 2018 Luigi Crescenzi makes a strap with a leather insert that prevents scratching.. http://www.luigicases.com/ Albert Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted September 21, 2018 Share #11 Posted September 21, 2018 This a worn black Leica M4. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nowhereman Posted September 21, 2018 Share #12 Posted September 21, 2018 Luigi Crescenzi makes a strap with a leather insert that prevents scratching.. http://www.luigicases.com/ Albert The original Leica leather strap for the M10 also has the same type of leather insert. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haribo Posted September 21, 2018 Share #13 Posted September 21, 2018 Unless Leica made any changes of which I’m unaware of, the black M10 has a so-called Black Chrome finish. The problem with this finish is that it’s one of the most delicate finishes available. Technically speaking, there is no such thing as “Black Chrome.” As everyone knows Chrome has a silverish look and comes usually highly polished to a mirror-like finish. “Black Chrome” is nothing but a layer of Chrome with a powder coating of black paint on top. The problem with this is that nothing sticks to Chrome. Whatever you put on will come off. In order to make the powder coat adhere better, the layer of Chrome is left unpolished and full of scratches. Unfortunately, this doesn’t change much to the fact that nothing will stick to Chrome for long. The black powder coating will come off sooner than later and reveal the unpolished layer of chrome underneath. May that be from leather or any other material straps are made of. Even one’s own thumb, when resting always in the same position when taking pictures, will eventually cause a blemish. There is nothing one can do about it. Blemishes are part of the charm of a Black Chrome finish. You better get used to it. -Harry Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobert Posted September 21, 2018 Share #14 Posted September 21, 2018 You can do something, which I did. Attach a plastic cover/layer in the corners for protection. I’ve used automotive tape. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted September 21, 2018 Share #15 Posted September 21, 2018 “Black Chrome” is nothing but a layer of Chrome with a powder coating of black paint on top. I think your information is terribly out of date. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted September 21, 2018 Share #16 Posted September 21, 2018 Unless Leica made any changes of which I’m unaware of, the black M10 has a so-called Black Chrome finish. The problem with this finish is that it’s one of the most delicate finishes available. Technically speaking, there is no such thing as “Black Chrome.” As everyone knows Chrome has a silverish look and comes usually highly polished to a mirror-like finish. “Black Chrome” is nothing but a layer of Chrome with a powder coating of black paint on top. The problem with this is that nothing sticks to Chrome. Whatever you put on will come off. In order to make the powder coat adhere better, the layer of Chrome is left unpolished and full of scratches. Unfortunately, this doesn’t change much to the fact that nothing will stick to Chrome for long. The black powder coating will come off sooner than later and reveal the unpolished layer of chrome underneath. May that be from leather or any other material straps are made of. Even one’s own thumb, when resting always in the same position when taking pictures, will eventually cause a blemish. There is nothing one can do about it. Blemishes are part of the charm of a Black Chrome finish. You better get used to it. -Harry Black Crome, in the case of Leica, is plated over nickel, not over chrome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgh Posted September 21, 2018 Share #17 Posted September 21, 2018 Stupid question perhaps but did you attach the strap so that the leather cover of the rings is on the inside, and therefore between the camera body and the rings? I did it this way and um, over a year and thousands of actuations later no real wear to report. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksinner Posted September 21, 2018 Share #18 Posted September 21, 2018 Put some sticker on the sides Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nowhereman Posted September 21, 2018 Share #19 Posted September 21, 2018 Black Crome, in the case of Leica, is plated over nickel, not over chrome. Not an expert on this, but my understating is that the M10 has a brass top plate with a layer of the chroming process that usually is based on nickel. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted September 21, 2018 Share #20 Posted September 21, 2018 Not an expert on this, but my understating is that the M10 has a brass top plate with a layer of the chroming process that usually is based on nickel. _______________ Alone in Bangkok essay on BURN Magazine Nowhereman Instagram That’s what I said. Over nickel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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