35mm 1.4 Summilux pre-asph

[28framelines]

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10 minutes ago, grahamc said:

No, it’s thought that as the versions changed (and presumably coatings changed), these lenses exhibit less flare.  In my experience of comparing these lenses side by side - with those improvements come also less glow and more contrast as you move along the versions. 

FWIW, Titan variant having the most contrast , and noticeably more apparent sharpness.  Oddly, even more so than the German copies despite being produced in the same years. (One would think it was same glass coatings in a different barrel but that doesn’t appear to be the case from my tests - perhaps because the Titan was introduced later/last)  

So, variants being:

v1 Steel Rim

v2 Canada 

v2 Germany

v2 Titanium  

Bare in mind if serviced and adjusted properly these are all plenty sharp enough even at 1.4 , and all observations above are from testing / pixcel peeping...

IMHO sharpness differences are irrelevant for real world photography but the other differences may be worth baring in mind. 

Did any of these later versions offer the ability to put a lens filter on them?

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5 minutes ago, 28framelines said:

Did any of these later versions offer the ability to put a lens filter on them?

No, all v2 use the 12504 hood with the filter (49mm filters fit) in the hood. Mainly I guess because they are not really different “versions” - these variations and categorisations are just based on our observations in minor performance/signature changes . Meaning the design including hood/filter didn’t change through lifespan  

V1 steel rim has a thread for a filter, though (E41)

 

Edited January 20 by grahamc

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35:1.4 v2 , Portra 400 & MP 

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I find this small, fast, and very light lens particularly useful when I don't have any pockets available .

35:1.4 v2 , Portra 400, MP 

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I find this small, fast, and very light lens particularly useful when I don't have any pockets available .

Very nice colours, almost retro colours.

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Just a glowy, blurry self-portrait of me and my sister. Tri-X +1, yellow filter, 35 ‘Lux Pre-Asph v2 (German), wide open.
 

Sometimes I feel like the way this lens renders at 1.4 feels more akin to a memory than a real-life rendition. Paired with film it really works for me. Looking back at photos, the way they look match the way I remember the moment: a little dreamy, a little grainy, not perfectly detailed, but fun and pleasant to look at. 

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35 Sumilux pre asph v2 on M8

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35 Sumilux pre asph v2 on M8

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On 1/20/2023 at 2:28 PM, grahamc said:

So, variants being:

v1 Steel Rim

v2 Canada 

v2 Germany

v2 Titanium  

 

Regarding minimum focus distance (MFD), did all v2 German-made Summilux Pre-ASPHs focus down to ~0.75m? Or were there some that still stopped at a metre?

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1 hour ago, weatherproof said:

 

Regarding minimum focus distance (MFD), did all v2 German-made Summilux Pre-ASPHs focus down to ~0.75m? Or were there some that still stopped at a metre?

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Edited January 27 by JMF

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2 hours ago, weatherproof said:

 

Regarding minimum focus distance (MFD), did all v2 German-made Summilux Pre-ASPHs focus down to ~0.75m? Or were there some that still stopped at a metre?

Generally I think they focus to 0.9.

I’ve tested 4 German copies (2 titanium, 2 black).  Of these copies , all but one of them focused to 0.9

The newest of the black focusses to 0.75 for some unknown reason.  The interesting thing is that this and the 2 titaniums were all the same year (1992).  FWIW the other German copy 1990  

Thia closer focussing lens may have been modified (although I have no reason to believe it was other than the freak focus distance). But tested side by side with the other black copy they don’t show any other performance differences at all and render identically. 
 

 

Edited January 27 by grahamc

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Graham, is there anything noticeable about the copy that goes down to 0.75 besides the focusing ring turning a bit more? Can you share a photo of the focusing ring at its MFD?

JMF, is your image implying you have a Canadian version that goes down to ~0.8m?

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54 minutes ago, weatherproof said:

Graham, is there anything noticeable about the copy that goes down to 0.75 besides the focusing ring turning a bit more? Can you share a photo of the focusing ring at its MFD?

JMF, is your image implying you have a Canadian version that goes down to ~0.8m?

Hello. Yes I can post tomorrow. 

There’s no difference at all that I have noticed. I hadn’t even really noticed the ring turning more but I guess it must do  . I only picked up the MFD when I did some tests 

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56 minutes ago, weatherproof said:

Graham, is there anything noticeable about the copy that goes down to 0.75 besides the focusing ring turning a bit more? Can you share a photo of the focusing ring at its MFD?

JMF, is your image implying you have a Canadian version that goes down to ~0.8m?

Hello. Yes I can post tomorrow. 

There’s no difference at all that I have noticed. I hadn’t even really noticed the ring turning more but I guess it must do  . I only picked up the MFD when I was testing some other things  

[JMF]

56 minutes ago, weatherproof said:

Graham, is there anything noticeable about the copy that goes down to 0.75 besides the focusing ring turning a bit more? Can you share a photo of the focusing ring at its MFD?

JMF, is your image implying you have a Canadian version that goes down to ~0.8m?

I'd  say about 0,85m !

It is a 1969 Canadian lens, batch 234 .

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Fortunately, my ex cine 1970 v2 RF coupled / M converted focuses down to 0,65m 😀

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yet the engravings are not accurately positioned on the focus ring anymore since the Leica M mount conversion was done !

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20 hours ago, weatherproof said:

Graham, is there anything noticeable about the copy that goes down to 0.75 besides the focusing ring turning a bit more? Can you share a photo of the focusing ring at its MFD?

JMF, is your image implying you have a Canadian version that goes down to ~0.8m?

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Here’s mine, a German one at MFD. It looks like most of the v2 lenses share an MFD of just under 3 feet. For reference, my serial is 3538XXX.

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Here’s mine, a German one at MFD. It looks like most of the v2 lenses share an MFD of just under 3 feet. For reference, my serial is 3538XXX.

Same here 35015**

[grahamc]

Titan (1992): Approx 0.9
Germany (1992): 0.75
35:2 v4 included for MFD reference 

As you can see, in only the shorter focussing German copy the focussing arrow doesn't align perfectly with the aperture dot.  I only just noticed this. Not something I know much about but could perhaps indicate this lens has been modified ?   

But in side by side tests with another black German copy (0.9 MFD) I can't notice any sharpness differences at all in all apertures zoomed to 200% on a 5K monitor, so no complaints at all here.

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Edited January 29 by grahamc

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