Steve Ricoh Posted August 17, 2018 Share #1 Posted August 17, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) It was a toss-up between posting here and on the digital sub-forum, but it's more likely the film photographer will be tempted to play. So here's the question: Anyone tried doing Pinhole photography with their M using a device such as this? https://skinkpinhole.com/wp/webshop/shop/fur-sucherkameras-for-rangefinders/fur-leica/skink-pinhole-pancake-pro-kit-leica/ I've recently purchased the equivalent for the m4/3 - only received yesterday, so limited shooting, but interesting results non the less (can't post non-Leica photos here, so unable to show the results). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 17, 2018 Posted August 17, 2018 Hi Steve Ricoh, Take a look here Leica M PinHole photography. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
dau Posted August 17, 2018 Share #2 Posted August 17, 2018 Yes, I did, with the M8: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287577-leica-m-pinhole-photography/?do=findComment&comment=3573994'>More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted August 17, 2018 Share #3 Posted August 17, 2018 That could be a Noctilux image! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share #4 Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) Like most things in life, size matters Right? Just wondering if 35mm is big enough for pin hole photography, or if as I suspect medium format and above is required. Images shot on the u4/3 using the Skinky could be best described as expressionistic caused by massive amount of diffraction on a small sensor. The M however offers 4x the surface area of (analogue or digital) sensor. Edited August 17, 2018 by Steve Ricoh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted August 17, 2018 Share #5 Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) I've done pinhole work with formats down to FourThirds (13x17.1 mm) but in it shines better with larger formats. 35mm is large enough ... The size and focal length of the pinhole also matter a lot. This one was made with the Leica SL using a Skink Pinhole (with the Zone Plate f/47 disk), exposed ISO 1600 @ f/47 @ 1/30): You could do the same with a Leica M. This one was made with an Olympus E-PL1 using a Skink Pinhole for an Olympus E-1 that was fitted using a FT->mFT mount adapter, making it a long focal length pinhole (about 70mm): What takes time with pinhole work is learning what subjects work best and how to visualize them. This one was exploratory using the Leica CL, Skink Pinhole (f/128 pinhole disk) exposed at ISO 12500 @ 0.3 seconds: Pinhole is fun... Edited August 17, 2018 by ramarren 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted August 17, 2018 Share #6 Posted August 17, 2018 Pinhole photography outcomes should make it clear that the larger format, the better. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share #7 Posted August 17, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks for the heads-up, ramarren. At the risk of being asked to take the image down, or simply being removed anyway, here's one I took yesterday with a Skinky Pinhole Pancake, 16mm f90, on u4/3 (equivalent to 32mm f/l on FF): Rufford Old Hall by -Steve Ricoh- 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted August 18, 2018 Share #8 Posted August 18, 2018 Pinhole photography outcomes should make it clear that the larger format, the better. The "better" if your goal is high resolution: Indeed, very true. I have custom made 6x6 pinhole camera that has a very very short focal length pinhole for ultrawide, high-res pinhole shooting... It's about a 20mm focal length. I've got to get out there with it and do some shooting, have a roll of Washi-120 paper/film in it, ready to shoot with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted August 18, 2018 Share #9 Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) Pinhole M mount cap was available on ebay. Still is. It is like 10 bucks. I have one laser drilled. f156 28mm equivalent. I slap it on film M camera once a year for pinhole day. Same pinhole M cap on M-E: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 18, 2018 by Ko.Fe. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287577-leica-m-pinhole-photography/?do=findComment&comment=3574278'>More sharing options...
250swb Posted August 18, 2018 Share #10 Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) Pinhole photography outcomes should make it clear that the larger format, the better. Yes but it isn't just a matter of 'bigger is better'. I can't remember the technical reason but with m4/3 you just won't get anything in focus/vaguely sharp, but as you go up to full frame it is possible if you have the correct sized pinhole. It's something to do with the angle of the light hitting the sensor being to great because the pinhole is too close to the sensor with m4/3. Having done large format pinhole photography I always think of pinhole photography as having an element of sharpness and not simply a fuzzy image. I have a Skink pinhole for my M and I've made my own from a body cap and brass shim. While the Skink is nicely made I prefer the results of my own homemade pinhole. Both are sharpish but the homemade one presumably has enough edge faults around the hole to create a more randomly interesting image. Edited August 18, 2018 by 250swb 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share #11 Posted August 18, 2018 Very nice Ko Fe, I particularly like the results from film, esp. the first tree. Do you find pin works better with film and less so with digital? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ricoh Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share #12 Posted August 18, 2018 Yes but it isn't just a matter of 'bigger is better'. I can't remember the technical reason but with m4/3 you just won't get anything in focus/vaguely sharp, but as you go up to full frame it is possible if you have the correct sized pinhole. It's something to do with the angle of the light hitting the sensor being to great because the pinhole is too close to the sensor with m4/3. Having done large format pinhole photography I always think of pinhole photography as having an element of sharpness and not simply a fuzzy image. I have a Skink pinhole for my M and I've made my own from a body cap and brass shim. While the Skink is nicely made I prefer the results of my own homemade pinhole. Both are sharpish but the homemade one presumably has enough edge faults around the hole to create a more randomly interesting image. Can you possibly post an example of the M Skink please? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted August 18, 2018 Share #13 Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) Can you possibly post an example of the M Skink please? Here is one using the Skink pinhole https://flic.kr/p/atPiHK and if you scroll to the right there are three more as a sequence. Here is one made with a body cap pinhole https://flic.kr/p/9Ck6oa (in each case ignore the 'lens info', it was just what the M9 thought was the lens used, or I could have set the lens information manually, can't remember now) Edited August 18, 2018 by 250swb 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted August 18, 2018 Share #14 Posted August 18, 2018 Up 'til now I've only ever shot LF and MF pinhole but having seen these results I'm heading for eBay right now to order an M cap pinhole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted August 18, 2018 Share #15 Posted August 18, 2018 Up 'til now I've only ever shot LF and MF pinhole but having seen these results I'm heading for eBay right now to order an M cap pinhole. Ouch, why are M cap pinholes 3 times the price of LTM cap pinholes? I ordered a 0.2mm pinhole, I have plenty of body caps, I can build my own and decide what focal length I want. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dau Posted August 18, 2018 Share #16 Posted August 18, 2018 I, too, have a Skink pinhole. It's rated at 1:110/24mm and it has a filter thread of 43mm (same as the X Vario). The following are part of a small series I did just this afternoon: Just the hole: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! red filter (091); only the red channel shown, with some drastical enhancements of the curves green filter (Leica GGr), only the green channel shown, with no additional processing blue filter (80b), only the blue channel shown, with no additional processing Obviously, the three filters are not meant to be used for channel separations. They were just in the cupboard, begging to be used for something. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! red filter (091); only the red channel shown, with some drastical enhancements of the curves green filter (Leica GGr), only the green channel shown, with no additional processing blue filter (80b), only the blue channel shown, with no additional processing Obviously, the three filters are not meant to be used for channel separations. They were just in the cupboard, begging to be used for something. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287577-leica-m-pinhole-photography/?do=findComment&comment=3574480'>More sharing options...
dau Posted August 18, 2018 Share #17 Posted August 18, 2018 In the following series I used the same pinhole with different extensions, i.e. at different distances from the sensor. I used the rings from the BEOON set and an LTM to M adapter: Again the original: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Rings A+B Rings A+B+C Rings A+B+C+D 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Rings A+B Rings A+B+C Rings A+B+C+D ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287577-leica-m-pinhole-photography/?do=findComment&comment=3574485'>More sharing options...
dau Posted August 18, 2018 Share #18 Posted August 18, 2018 This has been taken from the same place, with a Leica Summarit-M 1:2.5/50 fully open, with the same post processing as the pictures taken with the pinhole. The focus lies on the first garden chair in the background. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! As a special bonus, I add my first ever 3D pinhole photograph.It has been taken with the Skink pinhole, BEOON rings A+B and the Kúla Deeper beamsplitter which has an eye distance of 105mm. The picture is to be viewed with crossed eyes. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! As a special bonus, I add my first ever 3D pinhole photograph.It has been taken with the Skink pinhole, BEOON rings A+B and the Kúla Deeper beamsplitter which has an eye distance of 105mm. The picture is to be viewed with crossed eyes. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287577-leica-m-pinhole-photography/?do=findComment&comment=3574492'>More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted August 18, 2018 Share #19 Posted August 18, 2018 Very nice Ko Fe, I particularly like the results from film, esp. the first tree. Do you find pin works better with film and less so with digital?Thank you.I don't know, I work with both media. Digital could be hand-held and could be printed as darkroom negative and printed in lith. I do it from time to time, but not with pinhole. Will give it a try. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted August 18, 2018 Share #20 Posted August 18, 2018 I went out with it on M-E, report is here 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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