mbabst Posted August 16, 2018 Share #1 Posted August 16, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi I'm thinking about getting a Leica CL. I'm wondering if I can use a Zeiss C Biogon 35mm 2.8 (M Mount) on the CL using the M Adapter L? Thanks for your help! Morten Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Boojay Posted August 16, 2018 Share #2 Posted August 16, 2018 Yes, any M mount lens with the M to L adaptor will be fine, lots of examples in the image thread from various M lens, enjoy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 16, 2018 Share #3 Posted August 16, 2018 Welcome to the forum. The ZM 35/2.8 works perfectly on the CL. Will be hard to unstick when you mount it i suspect unless you don't like contrasty lenses in which case it is not the way to go. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted August 16, 2018 Share #4 Posted August 16, 2018 Lack of 6bit coding only downside. Example here actually from TL2 (same sensor as CL) shows highly accurate colours and sharpness. Zeiss used to suggest setting camera menu as if 28mm Leica Summicron, Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287542-zeiss-c-biogon-35mm-28-on-aps-c/?do=findComment&comment=3573640'>More sharing options...
lct Posted August 16, 2018 Share #5 Posted August 16, 2018 It is not difficult to hand code the lens. There is a recessed part in the flange for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted August 21, 2018 Share #6 Posted August 21, 2018 Comparison CL with 35 1.4 Summilux TL and Zeiss 35 2.8 ZM (TL here) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287542-zeiss-c-biogon-35mm-28-on-aps-c/?do=findComment&comment=3576151'>More sharing options...
microview Posted August 21, 2018 Share #7 Posted August 21, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Comparison CL with 35 1.4 Summilux TL and Zeiss 35 2.8 ZM (ZM here) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287542-zeiss-c-biogon-35mm-28-on-aps-c/?do=findComment&comment=3576153'>More sharing options...
Kyros Moutsouris Posted August 23, 2018 Share #8 Posted August 23, 2018 Comparison CL with 35 1.4 Summilux TL and Zeiss 35 2.8 ZM (ZM here) Is it only my impression or TL lens is sharper but cooler and the ZM is warmer but less sharp? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted August 23, 2018 Share #9 Posted August 23, 2018 'Cool' could be matched or altered to taste in LR. My conclusion is that the ZM has about 95% of the sharpness, or resolution, of the TL lens. Its advantages are weight and of course cost, versus the AF facility of the Leica lens. BTW the Summarit 35 2.4 is also very nice on the CL and it too weighs very little; it comes with shade which the ZM does not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 23, 2018 Share #10 Posted August 23, 2018 The ZM 35/2.8 has a nice and sturdy bayonet vented hood but the lens is so well protected against flare that i use the hood for protection essentially. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myvalko Posted August 31, 2018 Share #11 Posted August 31, 2018 Very nice comparison indeed. For me the ZM has a more natural look respect to TL... Maybe mire saturated? I don't know wether colours have been tweak or not. Straight from the raws? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted August 31, 2018 Share #12 Posted August 31, 2018 Thanks you Myvaldo. DNG adjustments in LR5 were TL lens highlights reduced, -29; Zeiss lens exposure reduced -0.45. No colour/saturation etc changes of any kind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldwino Posted September 1, 2018 Share #13 Posted September 1, 2018 The TL35 has that modern, flat look to it. The Zeiss shows depth. The TL (and all these new lenses) shows remarkable detail, but the rendering is just...blah. I’d take the Zeiss. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted September 1, 2018 Share #14 Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) The TL35 has that modern, flat look to it. The Zeiss shows depth. The TL (and all these new lenses) shows remarkable detail, but the rendering is just...blah. I’d take the Zeiss. Subjective gobbledegook . I have no idea what a 'modern, flat look' is .... or what 'showing depth' is either. I suspect in a blind testing with identical settings only some subtle differences in colour rendering, contrast and edge detail would be noticeable in lenses of this quality.... and then mostly dependent on processing for the former. From an optical point of view, the perfect lens should be completely free of aberrations and distortions. "character' is a term describing the degree of crappiness inherent in the lens, which is fine if you want to spend your money on crap. I'd prefer perfect rendering and the option to add crappiness in post processing. That's what Leics strive for and why the lenses cost so much. Edited September 1, 2018 by thighslapper Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_S Posted September 1, 2018 Share #15 Posted September 1, 2018 I looked at the over and over again and I can for the life of me not detect a difference (except that curtain) that would make me spin one way or the other, or reveal differences that are not due to RAW handling by LR or sharpening or whatever.A full-size version may reveal more, but it would likely be a matter of seeing what we want to see due to a bias towards one lens....the ZM looks just fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 1, 2018 Share #16 Posted September 1, 2018 APS-C, AF, f/1.4, 77mm x 70mm, 428g vs FF, MF, f/2.8, 30mm x 52mm, 200g. They have at least one common point, both are made in Japan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphlex Posted September 2, 2018 Share #17 Posted September 2, 2018 But the TL Summilux is marked “Made in Germany”, like the 60 TL. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 2, 2018 Share #18 Posted September 2, 2018 But the TL Summilux is marked “Made in Germany”, like the 60 TL. My bad sorry. Thanks for correcting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted September 2, 2018 Share #19 Posted September 2, 2018 Another comparison, only adjustment in LR reducing exposure to match. Zeiss lens here. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287542-zeiss-c-biogon-35mm-28-on-aps-c/?do=findComment&comment=3584499'>More sharing options...
microview Posted September 2, 2018 Share #20 Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) 35 Summilux TL here. Shows at least that the ZM at one-third the price and less weight is a good buy for the CL. Note the more 'interesting' texture on the top of the cimney base (lower left under the plate.) Both f5.6 with focus on flower pattern right of the plate. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited September 2, 2018 by microview 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287542-zeiss-c-biogon-35mm-28-on-aps-c/?do=findComment&comment=3584500'>More sharing options...
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