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Leica M2’s shutter speed dial rotation direction more intuitive


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#1 jmahto

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 05:14

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After couple of months of using manual film cameras (Konica autoreflex T2, Nikon FM2 and Leica M2), I find M2’s shutter speed dial rotation direction intuitive. Once I set A and T, the other combinations for same EV requires moving both A and T in the same direction by equal amount. To me this is more intuitive than moving them in opposite direction to keep same EV.

The other camera’s (and my M240) dial turns in opposite direction but they have meter and I adjust exposure while looking through VF. Probably that’s why the shutterspeed direction doesn’t bother me much for them (M240 even tells me which way to go by LED arrows). I mean I am not looking at both A and T from the top while adjusting exposure (for M2 I look at the dials from the top). However it is a pain to go against muscle memory while switching between cameras.

I do see that at some point Leica changed the direction. Am I only one who thinks older direction is intuitive!

Edited by jmahto, 10 August 2018 - 05:36.

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 14:33

I think it is whatever you get used to, not truly intuitive.


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Posted 10 August 2018 - 15:09

I do not care which direction they turn as long as there is consistency between cameras.



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Posted 10 August 2018 - 15:28

Did they change rotation only in M6 TTL ?
I had M3, M4-P and M4-2 now. All are the same. I could set any shutter speed without looking on the disk. It helps then I can't see dials in the dark. Then it is with metering camera, it all doesn't mater :)

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 15:54

I do not care which direction they turn as long as there is consistency between cameras.


Yes. Consistency would have been nice but digital M and M2/M3 are opposite (possibly till much later). Maybe they changed later to align with under/over exposing LED direction in the VF (so that both A and T move in same direction for similar effect of exposure). Some may find that intuitive.

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 15:56

I think it is whatever you get used to, not truly intuitive.

But when you have two cameras (digital M and M2/M3) that go opposite then what do you get used to!

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Posted 10 August 2018 - 16:09

Did they change rotation only in M6 TTL ?
 

 

Yes they did. When I got my M6TTL at first it seemed a bit odd but the novelty only lasted a week before I could use it just as intuitively as any other body. Maybe just the feel of the larger dial flicked the switch in my head, but I could use the TTL or older body alongside each other. It's how frequently you use the camera, that's all, no magic.



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Posted 10 August 2018 - 21:31

Yes they did. When I got my M6TTL at first it seemed a bit odd but the novelty only lasted a week before I could use it just as intuitively as any other body. Maybe just the feel of the larger dial flicked the switch in my head, but I could use the TTL or older body alongside each other. It's how frequently you use the camera, that's all, no magic.


Exactly. I have no issues with M4-2 and M-E. I could have them on me by same time and no dial disk issues.

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Posted 11 August 2018 - 05:32

But when you have two cameras (digital M and M2/M3) that go opposite then what do you get used to!

I still have 17 operational cameras, so I program myself to get used to the one I'm using at the time.


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Posted 11 August 2018 - 17:45

For both directions of rotation one can make up an explanation that sounds sensible and works for one; even if the speed dial turns in the wrong direction, like on the M2.


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