rodders Posted August 5, 2018 Share #1 Posted August 5, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm off to Japan next month and looking forward to capturing what looks like a fascinating country. I am taking my M10, 50 lux and 35 cron. I don't plan to take my tripod due to inconvenience and weight. Tokyo has a wonderfully bright and vibrant night life that I would love to capture. Am I kidding myself I can take sharp pics without a tripod ? Any tips (ideal iso etc greatly appreciated. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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frame-it Posted August 5, 2018 Share #2 Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) one of my favorite Japanese photographers..shoots at night usually with an M5...so should be easier with the M10 with its uber high ISO https://www.lensculture.com/articles/junku-nishimura-a-nocturnal-visitor http://erickimphotography.com/blog/2013/02/08/the-nostalgic-black-white-photos-of-japan-interview-with-street-photographer-junku-nishimura/ Edited August 5, 2018 by frame-it 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topoxforddoc Posted August 5, 2018 Share #3 Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) You can shoot street at night with the M10 and the M9 (as long as you have fast glass). Here are some shots from last year in Venice with my M10 and 35 pre-asph lux. https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/278204-night-bus-in-venice/ M9 with pre-asph lux - candlelight only https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/280183-advent-candles/ Edited August 5, 2018 by topoxforddoc 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 5, 2018 Share #4 Posted August 5, 2018 I'm off to Japan next month and looking forward to capturing what looks like a fascinating country. I am taking my M10, 50 lux and 35 cron. I don't plan to take my tripod due to inconvenience and weight. Tokyo has a wonderfully bright and vibrant night life that I would love to capture. Am I kidding myself I can take sharp pics without a tripod ? Any tips (ideal iso etc greatly appreciated. Your best lens for night shots is likely to be the Summicron 35. Expose properly, don't worry about clipping irelevant specular highlights. For slow shutter speeds: Hold the camera properly Lean against something Breathe out before releasing Don't jab the shutter button, gently is the word Take bursts instead of single shots. Sit down, use your elbows as a tripod. You should be able to go down to 1/8th 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share #5 Posted August 5, 2018 Thanks for the input guys. Inspiration and advice exactly what I was looking for. Appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 5, 2018 Share #6 Posted August 5, 2018 Consider Leica's mini-tripod. Add a light ballhead and it can double as a chest-pod. Quite effective too. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287228-is-it-possible-to-take-night-street-shots-handheld-with-m10/?do=findComment&comment=3567066'>More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted August 5, 2018 Share #7 Posted August 5, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Another handholding technique, using your strap in lieu of a pod, is described in this old post... https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/111304-tripod-monopod-nothing/?do=findComment&comment=1209129 There are also some clever extending monopods around, but use of wide apertures, higher ISOs and good technique should suffice. Jeff 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted August 5, 2018 Share #8 Posted August 5, 2018 Your best lens for night shots is likely to be the Summicron 35. Expose properly, don't worry about clipping irelevant specular highlights. For slow shutter speeds: Hold the camera properly Lean against something Breathe out before releasing Don't jab the shutter button, gently is the word Take bursts instead of single shots. Sit down, use your elbows as a tripod. You should be able to go down to 1/8th Would you not set the compensation to -1 LV at night time (maybe -¾)? Otherwise the photographs will turn up lighter than in reality and the ISO are unnecessarily high. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 5, 2018 Share #9 Posted August 5, 2018 No, the contrast in night street scenes is quite high. You need to expose exactly for the essential part of the image and let the shadows and highlights fall how they may. A general EV compensation is too imprecise. Leica's centre-weighed exposure metering and manual settings are perfect for the job. I would advise against Auto-ISO on the M 10 as well. The ISO dial gives more control. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhulton Posted August 5, 2018 Share #10 Posted August 5, 2018 I too will be off to Japan in Oct with my M10. I am taking the new Platypod assuming I can find a pole or streetlight to lash it to. https://platypod.com jeff hulton instagram.com/jhulton 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted August 5, 2018 Share #11 Posted August 5, 2018 I have done it outside Tamarkin in Chicago, Nikon D200 was with me & I forget why. ISO 100 or 200 / 35 mm nikon lens. All depends on lighting environment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topoxforddoc Posted August 5, 2018 Share #12 Posted August 5, 2018 Venice last year - handheld 1/90th ISO 3200 35 pre-asph lux - no need for a tripod of any sort https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287244-papa/?do=findComment&comment=3567330 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyniev Posted August 6, 2018 Share #13 Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) I was in Tokyo for a week for the Sakura festival last week of March...I brought a tripod and a mini tripod but did not use them...I took several night shots around Shibuya crossing, Ginza and a sakura street...these are all well lit and shooting at F4.5 with my Sony A7R, 16-35 lens, set at auto iso, the iso ranged from 400 to 4000. The Sony was my night walk around camera, I am happy shooting high iso with the M10, doing some noise reduction in LR...here is one iso 6400 1/30 probably F2.8 m10 with Elmarit 28 hand held, sorry not Tokyo but the Vatican Tokyo Shibuya crossing iso 1600 F4.5 https://photos.smugmug.com/Tokyo2018/i-PxCRWDk/0/93feb29f/X2/DSC00914-X2.jpg Edited August 6, 2018 by tonyniev 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted August 6, 2018 Share #14 Posted August 6, 2018 Been to Japan 5+ times and it's a wonderful photographers paradise. If you get a chance, visit MAP CAMERA store adjacent to the Shinjuku train station, it's a wonderful shop FULL of Leica stuff. I always have this Manfrotto Modo permanently attached to my M240. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287228-is-it-possible-to-take-night-street-shots-handheld-with-m10/?do=findComment&comment=3567499'>More sharing options...
adan Posted August 6, 2018 Share #15 Posted August 6, 2018 Remember that with the minipods (Leitz or others) one can plant it against a vertical wall/column as well as use it as a chest-pod or on a horizontal surface. Esp. with a ball head. Taught to me ~40 years ago by the then-Head of Sales for Leitz USA, and director of the Leica School, Walter Heun (not to be confused with the Dutch dancer/impresario). 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted August 6, 2018 Share #16 Posted August 6, 2018 I was in Tokyo for a week for the Sakura festival last week of March...I brought a tripod and a mini tripod but did not use them...I took several night shots around Shibuya crossing, Ginza and a sakura street...these are all well lit and shooting at F4.5 with my Sony A7R, 16-35 lens, set at auto iso, the iso ranged from 400 to 4000. The Sony was my night walk around camera, I am happy shooting high iso with the M10, doing some noise reduction in LR...here is one iso 6400 1/30 probably F2.8 m10 with Elmarit 28 hand held, sorry not Tokyo but the Vatican Tokyo Shibuya crossing iso 1600 F4.5 https://photos.smugmug.com/Tokyo2018/i-PxCRWDk/0/93feb29f/X2/DSC00914-X2.jpg Hi Toni, I presume that you had set an exposure correction or else you made the (nice) photograph darker in lightroom. I personally would do that correction in order to be able to set the ISO to AUTO at night (just to be a bit faster setting the camera). This is in contradiction of what Jaapv would do. I just prefer not to have the ISO too high and make the picture darker in LR anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 6, 2018 Share #17 Posted August 6, 2018 I presume he measured the buildings. The centre-weighed measuring of the M10 will disregard the darker areas outside the center. I hardly ever use Auto-ISO, set it manually (really easy on the M10). In my experience it ramps up too soon, especially when I am able to use extra long shutter speeds - longer than AI expects. Manual exposure and manual ISO will give the best results in difficult light. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted August 6, 2018 Share #18 Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) Good, Jaapv. I understand what you mean. I would avoid to let the ISO go up through manual setting of the exposure TIME. As you said above, this can go well up to 1/8s if you can put your elbows down onto something solid. I generally agree with Jaapv to set everything manually and most time I do it too. I would have to take my time though to find the „right“ spot where I measure the light. That is then what you call „more control“. I will try out. Its anyway great to see night photography. Edited August 6, 2018 by Alex U. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyniev Posted August 6, 2018 Share #19 Posted August 6, 2018 Hi Toni, I presume that you had set an exposure correction or else you made the (nice) photograph darker in lightroom. I personally would do that correction in order to be able to set the ISO to AUTO at night (just to be a bit faster setting the camera). This is in contradiction of what Jaapv would do. I just prefer not to have the ISO too high and make the picture darker in LR anyway. yup, image was processed thru LR6, and did highlights and exposure control in addition to sharpening and noise reduction...I have been shooting auto iso, and really shooting point and shoot style with the M10, manuaa focusing in most instances, using zebra focus help, if not zoned focused, a lazy old man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp995 Posted August 6, 2018 Share #20 Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) I was in the Southwest of France last winter. A small medieval town with little light. No problem with my M10! (ISOmax 3200) Ultron 1.7/35mm VM Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 6, 2018 by cp995 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/287228-is-it-possible-to-take-night-street-shots-handheld-with-m10/?do=findComment&comment=3567886'>More sharing options...
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