ropo54 Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share #121 Posted September 30, 2019 Advertisement (gone after registration) 37 minutes ago, Boojay said: Could not agree more Rob ... I too worry for my grandchildren! I had never heard of Ray Allen but what an article - thanks for the read, we should all strive to be that "human Thank you, Jayne. I hope you and your family will find a convenient time one day to take it all in. One does not leave 'the same' after a visit. Best, Rob 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ropo54 Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share #122 Posted January 8, 2020 The Leica Freedom Train Leica Freedom Train - Wikipedia.webloc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted January 8, 2020 Share #123 Posted January 8, 2020 On 9/25/2019 at 11:43 PM, david strachan said: Oh, mercy not more. It's endless, forever, the heart on the sleeve. Surely time to move on. Give us all a rest Rob, try to find something more positive. Over it, and tired, on TV, Forums, and all discussions, have seen enough and more than get the point. Almost like compulsory censorship, backwards. I've put up with it all my 67 years...60 of which i certainly understand. I am sorry for bad humanity...there are more than enough issues now, and in the past, to worry about..and will always be. We are just human...really nothing special above other animals...i think. It's not about anti-Semitism, and stress that...exactly what the the argument counters...but just absolutely not so. Mercy... I just came across this, Dave, and even though you've undoubtedly moved well on from the thread, I feel I, too, must respond....if only for the record. I cannot look at Rob's photos: I lost family in the Holocaust and, because as a young child, I was exposed directly to the horrors, I get physically ill whenever I view anything to do with the Third Reich (even typing the words is difficult). But that is just me and the aversive behavior modification I suffer from. Everyone mourns human loss in their own way. There is absolutely no way your post cannot be read as intentionally provocative and hurtful. I'm not accusing you of intending that. But not only does posting such thoughts inevitably invite the kind of response that I just made (and which you undoubtedly don't think fair or accurate), it, quite frankly, violates the sacred ground that we all claim the right to establish in our lives. I'm sure that, like all of us, you have at times thought things but decided not to say anything at all. This was one of those times. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephan54 Posted January 8, 2020 Share #124 Posted January 8, 2020 I read the books by Tuvia Tenenbom. Gives an interesting picture of anti Semitism in Europe and the US. Seems a lot of negativism is still present. This thread is still very relevant. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share #125 Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) Thank you, Ken and Stephan54. A branch of my family tree on my maternal grandmother's side was lost in the camps. Any relative who had not escaped Eastern Europe by 1935 perished. Indeed, this historical event rests in "sacred ground". Rob Edited January 8, 2020 by ropo54 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boojay Posted January 14, 2020 Share #126 Posted January 14, 2020 This forum definitely needs a "sorry" button. Cannot click "like" on your post Rob, and seemed wrong for Ken's post above it, but I'm firmly of the opinion we should never forget or move on and most definitely not with the state of the world at present. On 1/8/2020 at 5:48 PM, ropo54 said: Thank you, Ken and Stephan54. A branch of my family tree on my maternal grandmother's side was lost in the camps. Any relative who had not escaped Eastern Europe by 1935 perished. Indeed, this historical event rests in "sacred ground". Rob 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share #127 Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 13 hours ago, Boojay said: This forum definitely needs a "sorry" button. Cannot click "like" on your post Rob, and seemed wrong for Ken's post above it, but I'm firmly of the opinion we should never forget or move on and most definitely not with the state of the world at present. Jayne: It is now 75 years since the camps were liberated. Your sentiments and sensitivities are much appreciated, as are those of others, who have recognized the tragic evil which befell the victims of the Nazi madness. To stay silent, or to brush the sickness aside, is to dishonor the memories of victims and to dismiss not only the enormity of the crimes, but the moral outrage which should remain branded on the perpetrators. A large part of that society went off the tracks; Nazism was perpetrated not just by a few sick people, but by all strata of society. Germany's recognition of its crimes and its denouncement is part of its atonement, which hopefully culminates in healing and reconciliation. But, sweeping aside that history is to diminish its significance. As you so correctly observe, our world is 'wobbling'. Rampant nationalism, social disruption, wealth inequality, machines replacing man and climate change, all have contributed to making 'man' insecure about his/her world, If we allow ourselves to forget what the Nazis did, conditions ripen for 'it' to happen again. Rob Last Auschwitz survivors speak- 'We haven't won, but we've taught our grandkids' | The Times of Isra….webloc Edited January 15, 2020 by ropo54 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmay Posted January 15, 2020 Share #128 Posted January 15, 2020 https://djessemay.com/gallery/memorials.html Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/286989-auschwitz/?do=findComment&comment=3891851'>More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share #129 Posted January 18, 2020 THE FIRST OFFICIAL TRANSPORT TO AUSCHWITZ BROUGHT 999 YOUNG WOMEN. THIS IS THEIR STORY. First Female Prisoners of Auschwitz | History | National Geographic - National Geographic.webloc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share #130 Posted January 26, 2020 The story of Polish hero Witold Pilecki, who allowed himself to be captured to be taken to Auschwitz to organize a resistance and to tell the World. Regrettably, despite news filtering out about the Nazi atrocities in the early 1940s, the U.S. and allies refused to mercifully send aircraft to bomb the camps out of existence (or the railways). Witold Pilecki- Polish resistance hero went to Auschwitz to spy on Nazis - The Washington Post.webloc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share #131 Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) “They marched in the middle of this road,” she said. “SS men on both sides. Every third of them or so with a German shepherd. I remember mainly women. We knew we couldn’t even show any sympathy as we would be taken with them. I could only watch quietly through the window.” __________________________ As the Germans were in retreat towards the war's end, 56,000 sick and feeble inmates at Auschwitz were evacuated on a forced to walk by Himmler, whose purpose was: "First, he wanted to eliminate evidence of German crimes and witnesses who could testify to those crimes. He also hoped to use inmates as slave labor to keep the German war going. And rather irrationally, he believed that the prisoners could be used as bargaining chips in any peace negotiations". Many died (or were shot) along the way to their forced relocations. -------------------------------------------- “I visited Auschwitz-Birkenau with my wife 10 years ago,” he explained. “I saw a handwritten note left by someone in one of the barracks. It read: We live as long as the memory of us is alive. This message resonated with me strongly.” Before the Liberation of Auschwitz, a March of Misery - The New York Times.webloc Edited January 27, 2020 by ropo54 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share #132 Posted April 25, 2020 An amazing artist: Ilana Yahav Worth watching her compositions. Holocaust Memorial for the Jewish Federation of Philadelphia Sand Art by Ilana Yahav - YouTube.webloc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 26, 2020 Share #133 Posted April 26, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 6:48 PM, ropo54 said: Thank you, Ken and Stephan54. A branch of my family tree on my maternal grandmother's side was lost in the camps. Any relative who had not escaped Eastern Europe by 1935 perished. Indeed, this historical event rests in "sacred ground". Rob I are you familiar with https://www.yadvashem.org/remembrance.html They have an iRemember wall https://iremember.yadvashem.org/?p=3676 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted April 26, 2020 Author Share #134 Posted April 26, 2020 6 hours ago, jaapv said: I are you familiar with https://www.yadvashem.org/remembrance.html They have an iRemember wall https://iremember.yadvashem.org/?p=3676 Thank you, Jaap. I was last at Yad Vashem in 1999. (I understand it has since undergone a major renovation). I would like to pay my respects, again, in the not too distant future. Regards, Rob 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share #135 Posted May 3, 2020 A Survivor's Journey - The Life of Roman Kent (Why we must not forget what happened). A Survivor’s Journey- The Life of Roman Kent on Vimeo.webloc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmx Posted September 21, 2020 Share #136 Posted September 21, 2020 I have been asked to re-post my picture from another thread and I am doing this with pleasure. Taken last December in Auschwitz Birkenau early in the morning on analog film. I have visited Auschwitz many times and will probably contribute more pictures to this thread Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/286989-auschwitz/?do=findComment&comment=4049713'>More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted September 27, 2020 Share #137 Posted September 27, 2020 Thank you for this thread. I have seen it today the first time. I can't accept that some don't want to know anything more about it. Especially today when racists and right-wing extremists are getting stronger all over the world, it is all the more important that history is kept alive. At the moment the last eyewitnesses to these atrocities are dying and new Holocaust deniers are trying to downplay or even deny the events. Those who think something like this won't happen again should just remember the horrors of Rwanda or the massacres in the former Yugoslavia. The motives that lead to such atrocities are always the declaration of people as inferior due to their origin, religion or "race". I grew up in West Germany and in 1983 we went to Poland for a week with our school class and visited, among other things, the Majdanek concentration camp. I was 16 years old at the time and the impressions there have heavily influenced me to this day. We talked to former prisoners there for a long time and at the beginning I was hesitant to speak to them because I had such a guilty conscience about what my grandparents' generation had done there. Later on, I had a lot of arguments with my grandparents, who had not regretted having been in the NSDAP until death, about their role and their guilt at the time. One of the former inmates saw that I had a camera in my backpack and asked me to take photos of everything so that I could show the photos to my children later. Otherwise I would not have dared to take photos. I still have the pictures and don't know if I should post them in the forum because they are not that good from a photographic point of view. I was 16 and just starting to take pictures. Perhaps the thread starter should comment on this. If you want, I'll post a few pictures here. I showed the pictures to my son, who is now 25 years old, and reminded him that he and I are not to blame for the Holocaust, but the responsibility that something like this never happened again ... I hope my English is reasonably understandable and you are welcome to correct me…. 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lykaman Posted September 27, 2020 Share #138 Posted September 27, 2020 My father lost his whole family except one aunt, I myself, in my teens worked with a survivor of the camps (his numbers a forever memory).. Let us ALL Never Forget the horrors put upon so many.. To all those that don't believe:- may your Souls wonder aimlessly in the dark, to those that Perished , may your Souls have Peace.. There was a program on the TV (here) this weekend Expedition Unknown.. it covered many aspects of the Hitler era.. I repeat NEVER AGAIN.... L 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropo54 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share #139 Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, verwackelt said: Thank you for this thread. I have seen it today the first time. I can't accept that some don't want to know anything more about it. Especially today when racists and right-wing extremists are getting stronger all over the world, it is all the more important that history is kept alive. At the moment the last eyewitnesses to these atrocities are dying and new Holocaust deniers are trying to downplay or even deny the events. Those who think something like this won't happen again should just remember the horrors of Rwanda or the massacres in the former Yugoslavia. The motives that lead to such atrocities are always the declaration of people as inferior due to their origin, religion or "race". I grew up in West Germany and in 1983 we went to Poland for a week with our school class and visited, among other things, the Majdanek concentration camp. I was 16 years old at the time and the impressions there have heavily influenced me to this day. We talked to former prisoners there for a long time and at the beginning I was hesitant to speak to them because I had such a guilty conscience about what my grandparents' generation had done there. Later on, I had a lot of arguments with my grandparents, who had not regretted having been in the NSDAP until death, about their role and their guilt at the time. One of the former inmates saw that I had a camera in my backpack and asked me to take photos of everything so that I could show the photos to my children later. Otherwise I would not have dared to take photos. I still have the pictures and don't know if I should post them in the forum because they are not that good from a photographic point of view. I was 16 and just starting to take pictures. Perhaps the thread starter should comment on this. If you want, I'll post a few pictures here. I showed the pictures to my son, who is now 25 years old, and reminded him that he and I are not to blame for the Holocaust, but the responsibility that something like this never happened again ... I hope my English is reasonably understandable and you are welcome to correct me…. Verwackelt: I have posted this thread with the hope that others will read it, see it, and have perspective. Sadly, we live in perilous times and as Lykaman has commented, we must never forget. I very much look forward to your posting photographs. With much appreciation for your thoughts, Rob Edited September 27, 2020 by ropo54 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted September 27, 2020 Share #140 Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Hello Rob, thank you for your reply. I will show some pictures i took 37 years ago at age of 16 on Orwo Film as i travelled with my school class to Poland. I did not take any notes which part of the camp i shot. So i do not know every building and place are on which photo. But i think the pictures speak for them self Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited September 27, 2020 by verwackelt 2 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/286989-auschwitz/?do=findComment&comment=4053473'>More sharing options...
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