cp995 Posted April 9, 2018 Share #21 Posted April 9, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wonder when this lens will start delivering. If it's as good as the recent 40 1.2 VM it will be an amazing bargain. I hope so and Stephen from Cameraquest should know it: https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2799205&postcount=43 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 Hi cp995, Take a look here New CV Nokton 50/1.2. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
james.liam Posted April 10, 2018 Share #22 Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) The choice of a new lens so soon after the new 1,2/40 and so close in FL makes me doubt that it will behave similarly, as Gandy implies. What would be the point? Edited April 10, 2018 by james.liam Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp995 Posted April 10, 2018 Share #23 Posted April 10, 2018 The choice of a new lens so soon after the new 1,2/40 and so close in FL makes me doubt that it will behave similarly, as Gandy implies. What would be the point? 40 and 50mm are different. I think both lenses were designed in parallel. Voigtländer needed a fast modern 40mm lens beside the classic 1.4/40. 40mm is a nice focal length vor DSLM (nativ for Sony and M for adapters) and RF cams with 40mm framelines The 1.2/50mm is a fast modern option for Leica M users. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weinlamm Posted April 10, 2018 Share #24 Posted April 10, 2018 I love my 40mm f1.2. But in fact: depth of field is different in 40mm and 50mm. From that point (dof) the 40mm f1.2 is more a '35mm Noctilux' or a '50mm f2': 40mm Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 35mm 'Noctilux' 50mm f2.0 So - I'm happy to see how the 50mm will work in real. Source for pictures: http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html If it's nearly working in that kind like the 40mm works and I will find a version which is coupling correct - I think I will buy it. Hope it wont be to pricey... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 35mm 'Noctilux' 50mm f2.0 So - I'm happy to see how the 50mm will work in real. Source for pictures: http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html If it's nearly working in that kind like the 40mm works and I will find a version which is coupling correct - I think I will buy it. Hope it wont be to pricey... ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/286738-new-cv-nokton-5012/?do=findComment&comment=3497485'>More sharing options...
james.liam Posted April 10, 2018 Share #25 Posted April 10, 2018 While 40 is obviously not 50, it isn’t so significantly different as a 35. Wondering how it will differentiate itself from the existing 1,1/50. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted April 11, 2018 Share #26 Posted April 11, 2018 While 40 is obviously not 50, it isn’t so significantly different as a 35. Wondering how it will differentiate itself from the existing 1,1/50. Until it’s available, who knows! I’m only guessing, but the CV 50mm f1.1 seems to be intended as a budget alternative to other fast M mount lenses with none of the aesthetic qualities and all of the disadvantages and more. If CV have learnt their lesson that trying to make a fast 50mm silk purse from a sow’s ear is not going to be generally well received, then the new f1.2 will be a much better lens to follow CV’s more recent very good alternatives to Leica lenses. None of the UK dealers I have enquired with have any idea of when this new CV 50mm f1.2 will appear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonescapes Posted April 11, 2018 Share #27 Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 40 1.2 should actually let you get about as shallow as a 50 1.5. Also bear in mind that if you're actually doing the math and including the distance to the subject from the focal plane, the reported focal lengths of these lens have been found to be inaccurate under actual testing. The 40 1.2 on Sony E for instance is closer to 43mm. Maybe this new lens will be a keeper (the 40 1.2 certainly is, in my opinion), but there are so many good options at 50. The same wasn't true of 40. Edited April 11, 2018 by Lonescapes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted April 11, 2018 Share #28 Posted April 11, 2018 Almost all stated focal lengths are nominal, regardless of manufacturer. CV probably understand that a fast 40mm is a little too close to 35mm for many potential buyers, where a fast 50mm is likely to be more appealing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raid Amin Posted April 29, 2018 Share #29 Posted April 29, 2018 My expectation of Cosina based on experience would lead me to suspect it will far exceed “7 fArtisans”. Just a hunch. There will also be a price difference. Just a hunch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted April 29, 2018 Share #30 Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) There will also be a price difference. Just a hunch. You generally get what you pay for. Just a hunch. Edited April 29, 2018 by james.liam Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otho Posted July 19, 2018 Share #31 Posted July 19, 2018 Just announced by Cosina Japan: http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-50mm1_2/index.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp995 Posted July 19, 2018 Share #32 Posted July 19, 2018 Just announced by Cosina Japan: http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigtlander/vm-mount/vm-50mm1_2/index.html It was still announced in february/march during CP+ http://www.cosina.co.jp/cp2018/CP2018%20.pdf People are waiting for the availbility since then and now it is on their HP - Great news! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted July 19, 2018 Share #33 Posted July 19, 2018 Seems to render nicely, with a pleasantly creamy bokeh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 19, 2018 Share #34 Posted July 19, 2018 A comparison with the 50/1.1 would be interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp995 Posted July 19, 2018 Share #35 Posted July 19, 2018 A comparison with the 50/1.1 would be interesting. I think the f1.1 will loose, it was not very beloved - but why not, it has/had it's fans... The new line from CV 1.2/40 and this 1.2/50 for me is very exciting Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted July 19, 2018 Share #36 Posted July 19, 2018 I think the f1.1 will loose, it was not very beloved - but why not, it has/had it's fans... The new line from CV 1.2/40 and this 1.2/50 for me is very exciting Not looking for winners or losers. E.g., I wouldn't say the Noctilux 50/1.0 loses to the Summilux 50/1.4 ASPH. But their differences are interesting - to me, at least. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp995 Posted July 19, 2018 Share #37 Posted July 19, 2018 Not looking for winners or losers. E.g., I wouldn't say the Noctilux 50/1.0 loses to the Summilux 50/1.4 ASPH. But their differences are interesting - to me, at least. Ah, o.k., sorry for misunderstanding I wanted to say, that the new 1.2/50mm is a new, modern lens, while the 1.1/50 is a "classic" lens with a special look. So they will not be comparable, like the Nokton classic 1.4/40 and the new Nokton 1.2/40 too. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otho Posted July 19, 2018 Share #38 Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) Technical specificaction: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 19, 2018 by otho Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/286738-new-cv-nokton-5012/?do=findComment&comment=3558472'>More sharing options...
Abram Posted July 19, 2018 Share #39 Posted July 19, 2018 Odd that it says it will be released in May. Here we are in July and it's not here. Glad to see some more information on it though, it does seem to be a pretty solid performer! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otho Posted July 19, 2018 Share #40 Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) Odd that it says it will be released in May. Here we are in July and it's not here. It's a typical procedure for Voigtlander, also with lenses for Sony FE system. Long wait... Edited July 19, 2018 by otho Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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