trequartista Posted July 9, 2018 Share #1 Posted July 9, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi! Got two questions regarding using the CL with a m adapter. 1) If I use a third party lens like a Voigtlander, do I have to set the profile for the lens automatically every time I mount it? I know there's no profile for them anyway, but of course I would use a equivalent profile. 2) The minimal distance of M-lenses are often quite long. With the crop sensor, does the minimal distance remain the same like it would be a full frame sensor? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ramarren Posted July 9, 2018 Share #2 Posted July 9, 2018 1- The CL is like all the other Leica cameras that allow mount adaptation: an uncoded lens requires you to set the lens profile manually. The body will remember the last uncoded lens you fitted, so if you use the same uncoded lens in alternation with a native lens or two, it will be set by default to whatever profile you chose for that lens. If you use multiple uncoded lenses, what I always did with the SL and M-P was set up the user profiles so I could swap to my current fitted lens quickly. 2- All the mount adapter does is physically space the lens to the correct distance from the sensor and transmit the lens code if it exists. All other characteristics of the lens remain identical to the lens' use on a Leica M: focus and aperture control are as they always were. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 9, 2018 Share #3 Posted July 9, 2018 But you will lose automatic image magnification. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted July 9, 2018 Share #4 Posted July 9, 2018 But you will lose automatic image magnification. Who said anything about "automatic image magnification", jaapv? I always turn that PITA off anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 9, 2018 Share #5 Posted July 9, 2018 I said something about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted July 9, 2018 Share #6 Posted July 9, 2018 Well, I suppose it could also be said that you won't get the field of view on the CL that you are used to with your M lenses. Neither that, nor the question of whether you get automatic image magnification, were part of the OP's question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 9, 2018 Share #7 Posted July 9, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) The field (rather angle) of view is related to the geometry of the sensor size, however, the image magnification has to do with the functionality of the adapter, which was the subject of the OP's original question. I might add that it is something that I use regularly, both on the M240 when I still had it and on the CL now, especially with long or fast lenses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted July 10, 2018 Share #8 Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) Sigh. Okay, so you think it’s important. And I think it’s trivial, a feature I don’t use. Still wasn’t part of the OP’s query. Like all the other things about using an adapted lens on an EVF body. He asked two specific things. Edited July 10, 2018 by ramarren Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 10, 2018 Share #9 Posted July 10, 2018 Auto zoom may be a PITA for some and an indispensable feature for others. The only superiority of Leica bodies over modded Sonys to me, besides RFs of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 10, 2018 Share #10 Posted July 10, 2018 1) If I use a third party lens like a Voigtlander, do I have to set the profile for the lens automatically every time I mount it? I know there's no profile for them anyway, but of course I would use a equivalent profile. [...] There is a recessed part in the flange of (current) ZM and CV lenses allowing to code them manually. My CV 21/4 is automatically recognized as Elmarit 21/2.8 pre-asph this way. Same for my ZM 35/2.8 recognized as Summarit 35/2.5. Beware that the trick does not work for all third party lenses though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trequartista Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share #11 Posted July 10, 2018 Thanks for the answers so far. But why is the automatic image magnification lost with non-m lenses? And what means I it to have another field of view? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 10, 2018 Share #12 Posted July 10, 2018 Because automatic image magnification is linked mechanically to a sensor in the M rangefinder mechanism. The CL has no mechanical link between lens and body. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trequartista Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share #13 Posted July 10, 2018 So automatic magnification means as soon as you adjust the manual focus ring you will get a zoomed view of the area you are focusing, right? But you won‘t get that neither with leica m-lenses nor with 3rd party m lenses? How do you adjust manual image magnification? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trequartista Posted July 10, 2018 Author Share #14 Posted July 10, 2018 And another question: Focus Peaking is available for every lens in manual mode, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 10, 2018 Share #15 Posted July 10, 2018 Yes. It is a function of the camera, not the lens. However, you'll find that it is of limited use like on any camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 10, 2018 Share #16 Posted July 10, 2018 - Whatever lenses are used, automatic image magnification, as you describe it perfectly, does not work on the CL. - Manual image magnification is triggered by the right wheel of the CL. - Focus peaking works with all lenses on the CL but is not more accurate there than on other cameras. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 10, 2018 Share #17 Posted July 10, 2018 So automatic magnification means as soon as you adjust the manual focus ring you will get a zoomed view of the area you are focusing, right? But you won‘t get that neither with leica m-lenses nor with 3rd party m lenses? How do you adjust manual image magnification? With the Leica L-M adapter by flicking one of the top wheels or by the arrow buttons on the back, with a non-Leica adapter by the arrow buttons only. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 10, 2018 Share #18 Posted July 10, 2018 - Whatever lenses are used, automatic image magnification, as you describe it perfectly, does not work on the CL. - Manual image magnification is triggered by the right wheel of the CL. - Focus peaking works with all lenses on the CL but is not more accurate there than on other cameras. By either wheel, according to your choice, on the latest firmware. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trequartista Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share #19 Posted July 11, 2018 Okay, thanks again for clarification. Do you think the CL is worth combining with M-Lenses either from Leica or 3rd Party only? Is this a reliable and good combination? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 11, 2018 Share #20 Posted July 11, 2018 Leica adapter and any lens you like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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