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I'm looking at options for adapting my 3.5cm LTM lens. I came across this one and it's described as genuine. The engravings look quality and the correct newer font but I can't find any info on versions just marked "Leica." Most seem to be marked Leitz with Wetzler information. I know cheaper non-Leica/Voigltander options are available, but I don't mind paying extra for a legit one so I'd like to just make sure that this one is legit before proceeding.

 

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I haven't seen one marked "LEICA" - which would have been made after the corporate name change. I also haven't seen any non-Leica adapters with the Leica name, but have seen many other (chinese) copies of stuff marked with the name.

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I think is a finely made 3rd pary item : afaik Leica co. has never listed them, Anyway, looks really nice and don't see reason not to buy it, unless they ask an abnormal price based on its presumptive "originality"...

Pay attention to the cutout… it's useful for LTM lenses with focus knob (not many the postwar items in this focal range… Summaron 28 5,6 and Summaron 35 3,5) … but "uncovers" the 6 bit code reading strip on digital Ms.

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..... don't see reason not to buy it, unless they ask an abnormal price based on its presumptive "originality".....

 

Except that using Leica's name on it makes it 'counterfeit' and consequently its an 'illegal' product. Well made items don't need an illicitly engraved maker's name so I'd be wary.

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I think it's a copy. The font is a take on a modern Leica font, and Leica themselves haven't made the LTM adaptors for some time as far as I know. Also, all authentic LTM adaptors I've seen by Leica (complete with box for example) also never just say "Leica", they all say "Leitz Wetzlar Germany DBP" or "Ernst Leitz Wetzlar Gmbh Germany DBP" or similar. So if they're asking over a few bucks for it as "genuine", I'd say give it a pass. If it's cheap, then doesn't matter.

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This is the one that came attached to my 1961 35mm/f2.8 LTM Summaron bought from the Leicashop, so likely to be genuine. 

 

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Thanks guys. I appreciate the input. Thought it might not be the real deal. I paid $40 for it but if it fits and works correctly then I think it’s worth it

 

Good price, definitely…. the engraving Leica style (*) worths the price by itself…

 

(*) has anyone scrutinized if the modern Leica fonts are EXACTLY copied ? I have just given a look to the "135" engraving of my new APO Telyt… the "5" is reproduced with lot of care (upper segment a bit shorter than lower… respective proportions of the two verticals segments apparently right…); hair spiltting, the angles of the "3" loo (to me) a bit more rounded in the adapter… B)

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Good price, definitely…. the engraving Leica style (*) worths the price by itself…

 

(*) has anyone scrutinized if the modern Leica fonts are EXACTLY copied ? I have just given a look to the "135" engraving of my new APO Telyt… the "5" is reproduced with lot of care (upper segment a bit shorter than lower… respective proportions of the two verticals segments apparently right…); hair spiltting, the angles of the "3" loo (to me) a bit more rounded in the adapter… B)

 

Yeah, the quality of the engraving was what confused me the most. The singular labeling of "Leica" didn't seem to be correct but the engraving looks good.

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Engraving is pretty simple today with either CNC controlled milling tools or for softer metals like brass, laser engraving. You can buy a laser engraver for just a few hundred pounds. At the other end of the price scale, my son, who is a development engineer at a company called Renishaw, who make 3D metal printers for likes of Formula One teams, costing upwards of half a million pounds, was showing me he can even do raised relief lettering on a object, say made of titanium, to put the maker's name, part number and even the patent numbers on it, in any font you care to choose. 

 

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Engraving is pretty simple today with either CNC controlled milling tools or for softer metals like brass, laser engraving. You can buy a laser engraver for just a few hundred pounds. At the other end of the price scale, my son, who is a development engineer at a company called Renishaw, who make 3D metal printers for likes of Formula One teams, costing upwards of half a million pounds, was showing me he can even do raised relief lettering on a object, say made of titanium, to put the maker's name, part number and even the patent numbers on it, in any font you care to choose. 

 

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That's interesting as it seems lesser quality things seem t have more laser etching than actual engraving on their components. I just purchased the MGR 40mm Summarit conversion kit and even though it's a nice piece of kit, they opted for laser etching over engraving. I wonder if I could have the pieces engraved after the fact...

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I received the adapter today. It's good quality as far as I can tell. It did get stuck on my M240 but I had one of the old plastic caps with the three prongs so after some uncomfortable wiggling it came off. Think it's a keeper.

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