John McMaster Posted May 28, 2018 Share #21 Posted May 28, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) The wall etc look different in each shot, I assume that that it did not move? john Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 28, 2018 Posted May 28, 2018 Hi John McMaster, Take a look here Leica S007 verses H6D100c both with HC lenses. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest Posted May 28, 2018 Share #22 Posted May 28, 2018 The wall etc look different in each shot, I assume that that it did not move? john no same wall........ dynamics range maybe Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted May 28, 2018 Share #23 Posted May 28, 2018 I believe the light in the first one was just a tad better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2018 Share #24 Posted May 29, 2018 Here is something else that I have just found out When I open one of the H6D images in ACR it gives it that inferred color cast ACR Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Phocus.....to big I will reply with the Phocus import Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Phocus.....to big I will reply with the Phocus import ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/284708-leica-s007-verses-h6d100c-both-with-hc-lenses/?do=findComment&comment=3527270'>More sharing options...
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Stuart Richardson Posted May 29, 2018 Share #26 Posted May 29, 2018 In that case, it might not be IR contamination as much as a problematic profile. Profiles often have the hardest time with shadows, and especially if you are pushing the file 1.5 stops (or more if you are also lifting the shadows), so it could be we are just seeing a profiling issue. Regarding the comparison, it is tricky to do. On the one hand, it would be more helpful to see two different ways of comparison: 1. How the files come out of the opposing cameras without adjustment. 2. When they are each worked to the same goal of being a more or less matched final file. I am not quite sure where these are between those two poles. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted June 1, 2018 Share #27 Posted June 1, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) SO what do you think about the difference between S007 and Hassy here in this case? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 1, 2018 Share #28 Posted June 1, 2018 SO what do you think about the difference between S007 and Hassy here in this case? Tom I like them both. I prefer the H6D over the Soo7 because I just like the feel of it in my hands and love the 100c IQ..........the Leica Soo7 files are great and as we all can agree the S lenses are also great but in my case "size matters" and the H6D100c IQ knocks spots off the S007. I'm going to keep my S system until after my safari in September then I will probable let it go. Below is a link to some High Definition images taken with both the H6D100c and the Soo7 so you can look at them yourself and make your own mind up..........all of the above is a personnel choice ...........others may have there own opinions H6D100c http://neilsphotography.co.uk/hasselblad-h6d-prints/ Leica S007 http://neilsphotography.co.uk/leica-medium-format/ Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 1, 2018 Share #29 Posted June 1, 2018 As you said yourself in the other thread, for forum posts a TL will suffice. No way to adequately assess these here. And, in any case, they’re different pics and even different subject matter, so direct comparisons are impossible. But as you also said, the only thing that matters is what you think. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliberate1 Posted June 2, 2018 Share #30 Posted June 2, 2018 Tom I like them both. I prefer the H6D over the Soo7 because I just like the feel of it in my hands and love the 100c IQ..........the Leica Soo7 files are great and as we all can agree the S lenses are also great but in my case "size matters" and the H6D100c IQ knocks spots off the S007. I'm going to keep my S system until after my safari in September then I will probable let it go. Below is a link to some High Definition images taken with both the H6D100c and the Soo7 so you can look at them yourself and make your own mind up..........all of the above is a personnel choice ...........others may have there own opinions H6D100c http://neilsphotography.co.uk/hasselblad-h6d-prints/ Leica S007 http://neilsphotography.co.uk/leica-medium-format/ Neil Neil, after admiring the Hasselblad images of your models, I have a new standard for detail assessment - let's call it "goose pimple resolution." Most impressive. And then I wonder - necessary? Cheers, mate. David Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albireo_double Posted June 2, 2018 Share #31 Posted June 2, 2018 From my point of view, all today's medium format digital cameras can produce amazing image quality. Where I find practical differences is mostly in their (and my) ability to achieve critical focus - this may not be an issue for a landscape or product photographer but does become important when you start photographing people (e.g. models, portraits, fashion, like here). One of these days, I plan to rent the Hasselblad to try the "True Focus" feature. It is here where I think the Leica's weakest point is - the AF is accurate but inadequate in situations where the model (or the photographer) may move half an inch back or forth between focusing and pressing the shutter button (or where the original focus point is slightly off from the real distance when using the "focus and recompose" technique). I was shooting with a model yesterday and tried to use the Summicron 100 at f2.0 for a series of half-body images, with the model lying down on a couch. Even though I carefully refocused after every shot, I did not manage more than approx 1/2 of the resulting images focused correctly. In comparison, with the Fuji GFX, the face recognition / eye focus feature would have nailed the focus in close to 100% images, in this situation, even with the 110/f2.0 shot wide open. I suspect the True Focus on the HD6 would have been a real help here, also. NB: I find the S100 much more difficult to focus than for instance the S180 and I often switch to the longer lens during a shoot - similar DOF when shot wide open, and much higher percentage of keepers. NB2: Nothing wrong with "goose pimple resolution" - it's good to have it, if your computer and data storage are up to the task. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted June 2, 2018 Share #32 Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) Still curious what is what in 1/. and 2/. Or am I missing something? I prefer 2/. btw because of deeper blacks and 1/. seems a bit flat to me. Don’t know if that comes through in prints too, which is of course the final criterium. The hairs on the arm and the structure/tonal scale in the hand are very nice in 2/. too. Couldn’t it be caused by just half a stop difference in exposure? As for IR, I see in the HB collection a magenta cast on the black? swimsuit first row right. So it’s not definite for me if that’s the Leica S’s flaw: on the fifth row of the S images I see a very deep black pair of pants. Very interesting Neil! Thanks for doing this for us out of boredom. Edited June 2, 2018 by otto.f Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2018 Share #33 Posted June 2, 2018 And then I wonder - necessary? Cheers, mate. David Absolutely not necessary David....... but really nice to have :) Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2018 Share #34 Posted June 2, 2018 Still curious what is what in 1/. and 2/. Or am I missing something? I prefer 2/. btw because of deeper blacks and 1/. seems a bit flat to me. Don’t know if that comes through in prints too, which is of course the final criterium. The hairs on the arm and the structure/tonal scale in the hand are very nice in 2/. too. Couldn’t it be caused by just half a stop difference in exposure? As for IR, I see in the HB collection a magenta cast on the black? swimsuit first row right. So it’s not definite for me if that’s the Leica S’s flaw: on the fifth row of the S images I see a very deep black pair of pants. Very interesting Neil! Thanks for doing this for us out of boredom. Otto If I remember rightly one is H6D and too is S007.....there both great and Amanda is amazing :) Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted June 2, 2018 Share #35 Posted June 2, 2018 If I remember rightly one is H6D and too is S007..... Can you check please? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted June 2, 2018 Share #36 Posted June 2, 2018 Otto If I remember rightly one is H6D and too is S007.....there both great and Amanda is amazing :) Neil That surprises me in a positive way 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2018 Share #37 Posted June 2, 2018 Can you check please? Number one is defiantly the H6D Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted June 2, 2018 Share #38 Posted June 2, 2018 Defiantly :-) Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2018 Share #39 Posted June 2, 2018 Nice 3D effect with the HC300mm f4.5 lens..............again minimal PP done Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/284708-leica-s007-verses-h6d100c-both-with-hc-lenses/?do=findComment&comment=3530207'>More sharing options...
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