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35-70 f2.8 R lens. Your opinion?

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I have this rare opportunity to purchase this "legendary" Leica lens. If no takers, they will convert to a cinema lens. I would like to save this lens from being  cannibalized to a RED cinema camera lens. Should I get it or not? Can anyone share their experience with this lens? 

 

If you don't think I should get it, please explain why.

 

It has been elusive, but I feel the time is right to bite!

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What I don't understand is why anyone should want to buy this to convert to a ciné lens. It has a cult collector's value way beyond its utilitarian use value. When I've seen them on sale I think they've been in the region of £5k (if my memory serves me right).  A more modern 28-90 zoom is much more reasonably priced, and is actually more useful as an actual R lens.

 

If you've got the cash to pay for a collector's item, and if you're a collector, then I suppose you could go for it. But then if you actually use it, there would always be a risk of devaluation simply with the usual knocks and scrapes of use.

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If the Leica lens is par focal (focus point remains the same at wide and tele focal lengths), then you could use it for film/video).

You also need to take the click stops out by removing the ball bearing in the diaphragm  assembly.  This is easy to do.  You could

probably get an R to Red adapter made, so, you don't have to hack the back of the lens off.

 

However, if I had my choice, I would use a Zeiss, Cooke or Angenieux (30mm to 90mm zoom range) lens.

They are par focal and they take all the zoom and focus attachments you need for heavy production.  I have used Leica R zoom

lenses (70-180, 21-35, 35-70, and 80-200) for film/vid production.  They are optically  just fine, but not all of them are par focal.   They do not take all the accessories needed for full-on production.  The R zooms are fine for small Sony, Panasonic GH, or Canon cameras.  But If you are going to work quickly and accurately on productions that use a Red camera, I would try and get a real cine lens.

 

Ciao,  Sully

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-What I don't understand is why anyone should want to buy this to convert to a ciné lens.

-It has a cult collector's value way beyond its utilitarian use value.

-When I've seen them on sale I think they've been in the region of £5k (if my memory serves me right).  

 

 

-IIRC, it demonstrates no focus breathing.

 

-Collectors value? Yes, about 200 were ever made. However it exceeds in performance all fixed R lenses at their respective focal length and  ƒ-stop by a wide-margin

 

-Last time I saw one sold earlier in the year, asking price ~$14k. 

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James, that is interesting; I'd not encountered the term focus breathing before for this phenomenon. Strangely enough, I have a vague recollection of someone (a long time ago - maybe even on the "old" forum) complaining of exactly this with regard to the 35-70/2.8 R! My recollection may well be faulty though. At least one Forum member has also complained that his sample of the 21-35 R zoom does this too, though my own copy seems OK.

 

My own 28-90 R zoom also does this to a small degree, so I guess that I will have to take back my earlier post suggesting that it might be a more cost-effective lens for ciné conversion. Having said that, $14k for a lens that is to be actually used is even more ridiculous that I first thought.

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Having said that, $14k for a lens that is to be actually used is even more ridiculous that I first thought.

 

 

In the recent Westlicht auction, someone purchased a red M262 + red 50 APO for something like $50k, before the auctioner's premium.

 

Lots of people out there with more money than good sense.

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I have this rare opportunity to purchase this "legendary" Leica lens. If no takers, they will convert to a cinema lens. I would like to save this lens from being  cannibalized to a RED cinema camera lens. Should I get it or not? Can anyone share their experience with this lens? 

 

If you don't think I should get it, please explain why.

 

It has been elusive, but I feel the time is right to bite!

 

 

Buy it, enjoy it, and post some images on the forum … You might regret not buying it if nobody else 'bites' and it ends up as a cinema lens. 

 

If I had the £dosh it would be used with my R9/DMR. 

 

dunk

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There was one for sale through Leica Miami at just under $14k and it appears that it has sold. It was truly in like new condition. 

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I have this rare opportunity to purchase this "legendary" Leica lens. If no takers, they will convert to a cinema lens. I would like to save this lens from being  cannibalized to a RED cinema camera lens. Should I get it or not? Can anyone share their experience with this lens? 

 

If you don't think I should get it, please explain why.

 

It has been elusive, but I feel the time is right to bite!

Late reaction. I own the lens, got one of the first available ones when it appeared -not knowing at that time that production would be stopped at 200 pieces. It is a fine lens but due to the f/2.8 opening a rather big and heavy lens for its limited focal range. If you want top quality in this range, however, that is the lens to get.

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Late reaction. I own the lens, got one of the first available ones when it appeared -not knowing at that time that production would be stopped at 200 pieces. It is a fine lens but due to the f/2.8 opening a rather big and heavy lens for its limited focal range. If you want top quality in this range, however, that is the lens to get.

Thanks leicapages,!

 

I actually got it without the "cine" adjustment in the end, and all I can say is... this is one of the best lenses I've ever bought... and it is probably one of the greatest lenses ever (I would love to see a Canon or Nikon lens that comes close... and I say this as a Nikon lens owner).

 

Unless you have used it, I guess it doesn't matter what you say, but it is basically the "Leica" philosophy in one lens... how far can we push things, and what will people accept? Unfortunately, most elite Leica users will talk about the 0.95 or the 75 1.25, and that will be it for them... unfortunately they have not used the 35-70 2.8... And I will say no more...

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