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#1 ash13brook

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 15:04

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Do those of you using M7s use the aperture priority feature often?

Do you find it to be reliable?

I want to add another body and am agonizing over it, apparently. I like the idea of my M4-P having NO batteries. But at the same time, it would be convenient sometimes - especially when going from outside to inside and back a lot - to set to a mid aperture and let the camera take care of the rest as opposed to resetting(or forgetting to) back and forth. 

 

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 16:07

Use it - yes.

 

Reliable - define reliable.  It is repeatable, but remember it is just measuring the reflection of the white spot off the shutter curtain, something that gives a broad, center-weighted metering sensitivity pattern.  If you have a subject surrounded by large areas at a different luminance, you will get the wrong exposure reading.  Think of the meter as an aid to your brain in judging if the exposure needs an adjustment or not.

 

Same goes for the M6, MP, and all the digital M's too.

 

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 18:40

I don't have an M7, but when I was thinking about one I tried the Zeiss Ikon ZM, which has pretty much the same functionality, but a better viewfinder. I've used it in aperture priority quite a bit, and it does very well. If you can find a good used body they are much less expensive than the M7. It doesn't feel like a Leica, but it is a fine camera.



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Posted 15 April 2018 - 20:59

It is generally very good.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 14:17

I used to be a weekend stringer for a Chicago suburban paper. I never got out of my car without a camera on my shoulder - ever. Not even to run into the store for a gallon of milk.
The other night, I ran into Popeye's Chicken(I thought Popeye was famous for spinach?) to grab some food. It was fairly hot inside and the outside doors were propped open. As I was standing to the side waiting for my food, I noticed a couple of the cooks standing in front of the open door of the walk-in freezer, trying to cool off, a cold cloud swirling around them. On the drive home, I was thinking that in the "old days", I would have had that shot sitting comfortably in my camera.
Would it have been a great shot? Maybe not, but, I'll never know.
I'm thinking if I was using something a little automatic, I might carry it around a little more. Something I could leave at a mid aperture and depend on the camera to take care of the rest so I could focus and shoot.
That's why I'm asking. Seems it should be plenty good for that. I figured it was, but thought I'd get some opinions.

Matt

Edited by ash13brook, 16 April 2018 - 14:19.


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Posted 16 April 2018 - 14:19

I love my M7 .

 

I often use it on aperture priority Auto, but not just to let the light meter do the work on it's own (although it does quite well if left to it's own devices).

 

I quickly scan the scene for its light range, when I've decided on the shutter speed I want I move the camera till Auto advises of that shutter speed, I then lock it in, recompose, and shoot. Takes only a moment.  It also gives me an opportunity to better understand the light in the photo.

 

So much faster than metering, manually adjusting the shutter speed dial, and then shooting, especially in changing light conditions.


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Posted 16 April 2018 - 14:22

I used to be a weekend stringer for a Chicago suburban paper. I never got out of my car without a camera on my shoulder - ever. Not even to run into the store for a gallon of milk.
The other night, I ran into Popeye's Chicken(I thought Popeye was famous for spinach?) to grab some food. It was fairly hot inside and the outside doors were propped open. As I was standing to the side waiting for my food, I noticed a couple of the cooks standing in front of the open door of the walk-in freezer, trying to cool off, a cold cloud swirling around them. On the drive home, I was thinking that in the "old days", I would have had that shot sitting comfortably in my camera.
Would it have been a great shot? Maybe not, but, I'll never know.
I'm thinking if I was using something a little automatic, I might carry it around a little more. Something I could leave at a mid aperture and depend on the camera to take care of the rest so I could focus and shoot.
That's why I'm asking. Seems it should be plenty good for that. I figured it was, but thought I'd get some opinions.

Matt

 

Contax T2 or preferably T3 :-)



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Posted 17 April 2018 - 03:31

I quickly scan the scene for its light range, when I've decided on the shutter speed I want I move the camera till Auto advises of that shutter speed, I then lock it in, recompose, and shoot. Takes only a moment.

 

 

I found the same technique here, although I have given it the slang name of "nodding" the camera as I often am working for longer exposures and the ground is less bright than the sky.  Fun times.

 

Eric


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Posted 17 April 2018 - 03:43

"Nodding"...good term Eric. I do that a lot with my cameras too.

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 03:44

I bought a second hand M7 as my film Leica model for that very reason. I use aperture priority until I have a reason to lock down the exposure beyond a single frame and use manual shutter speed. Manual is great for consistent lighting, but I'm often in frequently varying conditions.

 

For me, AUTO along with the exposure lock button replaces the slower manual shutter-speed adjustment required on the M6 and others. Not only that, I shoot street photography which means that the metering of my shots can be anywhere from Sunny 16 to dark shaded areas and I just don't want to have to deal with manually changing the exposure.

 

The M7 meter has been as reliable as anything else I've used. It's a large spot meter essentially, so it just means you have to learn how to effectively meter using that. For backlit scenes, I make sure to scan the frame and lock the exposure on the most appropriate.


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Posted 17 April 2018 - 06:19

Yes and yes. As reliable as any other metering I’ve used. ‘A’ mode is fast when you see a shot and don’t have time, and it is reliable to meter by pointing at something of the relevant brightness and recomposing. Then switch to manual later if you have more time.

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Posted 18 April 2018 - 02:39

That's the info i was looking for.

I'm fine shooting outside where the exposure, for the most part, is bouncing back and forth between basically two - sunny and shady. I know that's a little bit of an over simplification.

But, sometimes, just carrying the camera during regular everyday running around I don't want to have to be thinking of changing the shutter speed( I prefer use a fairly constant aperture) all the time.

Thanks for all the responses. Now, i guess I better start accumulating the money and warming my wife up for the purchase( actually easier than I make it sound).

 

MarkP- I appreciate your suggestions, but it took me quite awhile to pull off being able to buy into the Leica and I decided from the start I was only using Leica exclusively for this particular part of my photography. That's probably why, so far, I only have two lenses. I'm sure the Contax and the other non- Leica bodies and lenses are probably as good as the Leica these days, but(at the risk of sounding snobby) they're not what I want at this time.

 

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 23:20

I bought the M7 because of the AE feature. Otherwise I'd stick to my M6.




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