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Hi folks,

 

 

Just wanted to gather your thoughts on 50mm Summilux ASPH - whether if Black or Silver is better.

 

 

I understand Silver is made from solid brass, hence heavier than Black.

 

 

But other than that is there any reason Black would be deemed 'inferior' to the Silver ones?

 

 

And in terms of value retention and resellablity, which one would be the better option?

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Hi folks,

 

 

Just wanted to gather your thoughts on 50mm Summilux ASPH - whether if Black or Silver is better.

 

 

I understand Silver is made from solid brass, hence heavier than Black.

 

 

But other than that is there any reason Black would be deemed 'inferior' to the Silver ones?

 

 

And in terms of value retention and resellablity, which one would be the better option?

 

 

From what I understand, the newer silver lenses are not made of brass but anodised silver, so the silver and black lenses are the same weight. Older copies, I'd say pre-2014 (correct me if I'm wrong because I have no clue when exactly they changed production) would be silver brass.

 

I handled both versions recently. The silver brass version has a lot more heft to me. But in terms of build I couldn't say one was better than the other (unless you say heft implied better build). The silver brass one I handled had oily aperture blades and had looser focusing than my black anodised alumnium version, though I must add that I had sent my black lens to Germany once to remove oil off the aperture blades and tighten focusing. It also had some play near the lens mount. Now it is perfect. 

 

Value wise, I suspect silver lenses are viewed as more valuable if kept in good condition. I think the thinking goes that silver versions of certain lenses are sometimes limited edition/of limited production runs (take the 28mm Elmarit ASPH v1 and 28mm Summicron ASPH v1 in silver for example). Some new silver lenses are priced higher than black lenses too.

 

As a user's lens it really boils down to which colour you prefer.

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I thought the silver was now same weight as black and does not have brass chromed body. So if buying from new, no resale difference – except that more people like the black for its lesser obtrusiveness.

 

Ah: chasdfg, you got there first!

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I prefer the brass and chrome lenses when possible— I doubt there is any substantial difference in mechanical durability, but the silver chrome finish has seemed less prone to wear to me.

 

I do think there is a difference in the smoothness of the focusing action, with the chrome lenses feeling smoother, however it may be a purely my imagination— the internals on both types are identical.

 

There is a significant weight penalty in going with brass and chrome, especially in you are carrying more than one lens. My daily bag is an M10, 24mm Elmarit ASPH, 50mm Summilux ASPH, and 90mm Elmarit M, all brass and chrome— compared to a set of black lenses, it is HEAVY.

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This lens is one of the last remaining standard lenses where the silver is still brass, not silver anodizing on aluminum. I have the silver version. There is a certain niceness to the illusion of quality that comes from the weight, but at times I wish I had the black one when I get tired after a long hike...

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I think the 50mm Summilux ASPH is now the only standard production lens in the Leica catalogue (excluding special editions) which is made with a choice of brass or aluminium barrels.

 

 

I think that's right. There are some lenses still in the catalogue – e.g. the 50 Summicron-M (non-APO) and the 90 APO – that, at one time or another, have been available in silver 'brass' finish with a separate catalogue number – but I think they are now only sold in black aluminium.

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For me it is very simple, I have nearly only silver bodies and the combination silver lenses and silver bodies looks very old fashioned. The people have no fear and in the best case they have a smile for me...

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The Chrome Summilux is a thing of beauty but it is very heavy and feels so on the camera.  The silver APO Summicron is a attractive alternative as it is anodised silver without a weight penalty. Both match the Chrome bodies perfectly.

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In a few dozen years the collectors will value the brass more than the more common aluminum, if historic rarity is any indication.  When new lenses were in extremely short supply the choice was often the first available, initially wanting chrome I waited and waited, the first available was black and the lens is everything I expected but the chrome continues to have an aesthetic appeal.    

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Silver chrome Monochrom (chrome on brass), silver chrome (on brass) 50 Summilux-M ASPH and silver chrome (on brass) 28 Summaron-M. Very happy. Weight? Not an isssue.

 

If I was buying now, I’d find the black chrome 50 Summilux hard to resist!

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The anodized silver version wears better than the black.

However, in the end, it is a matter of personal choice.

Albert  :D  :D  :D

 

I don't have a 50 Summilux ASPH, but I do have a chrome 35 Summicron that was part of my M-P Safari set.  It is a beautiful lens but it does feel significantly more heavy than a black 35/2 (9 oz./255 g. for black #11673 vs. 12 oz./340 g. for chrome #11674).

 

A weight difference of 3 oz./85 g. for a single lens is one thing.  It is quite another situation if you are carrying around 3 or 4 lenses that are all chrome and are 3-4 oz. heavier than their black counterparts.

 

At the end of the day, it is a matter of personal preference, if you do not object to the extra weight of the chrome lenses.  The only combination that looks odd to me is a chrome lens on a black body, but some folk my like that.

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