Leica hoods - a question about Canada vs German origin

[ShivaYash]

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Just a quick question, more for information than anything else.

 

I have a German made 35mmf/2 (pre-ASPH). I've had it for years.

The hood is marked 12524 Leitz Canada. Back in the day, would it have been 'normal' for a German lens to be supplied with this hood?

I purchased the set up second hand around 15 years ago, and wanted to know if this is indeed the 'correct' hood.

A small and perhaps irrelevant question for many, so if you are of this opinion, please don't bother to reply. I don't need to be told, 'does it matter etc.'

 

Ta.

[Ecar]

Based on the reference number, the hood appears to be the correct one for the lens. But I don't know whether it should be made in Canada or Germany for a German lens. All I know is that the plants were sharing quite a few parts across the pond, particularly so when they decided to shut Midland down and progressively bring production back to Wetzlar. FWIW, I recently posted a similar question regarding the Canadian box of a German 35/1.4 pre-ASPH in the Collectors & Historica sub-forum.

And no, it doesn't matter, but what would we be without curiosity?

Edited March 12, 2018 by Ecar

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[chris_livsey]

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Edited March 12, 2018 by chris_livsey

[jdlaing]

I’d smash that hood with a hammer. It has no business on a German lens.

[Leicaec421]

I have a 1991 German-made 35mm Summicron V4, which was supplied with a 12524 hood with "LEICA GMBH GERMANY".

 

 

Hope this helps.

Edited March 12, 2018 by Leicaec421

[Ko.Fe.]

It is a mystery for me but on the opposite site. I have Canadian 50 IV Cron made in the province where I'm. I have hood for it purchased from Ontarian camera store which was originally opened by ex-Leica Midland person. And it is German hood. 

Are Canadian made plastic ones? I would prefer it, German are metal. 

[Guest]

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It's very simpel:

Canadian production of Leica products was startet to lower high taxes for German products on the US market.

All metal hoods "Made in Canada" are fakes to deceive the US tax authorities.

Original Canadian hoods - and of course lenses and cameras - are made of wood, the most important natural material growing in Canada.

If any Leica hoods are made of plastic, they must be Asian fakes - no matter whether "Canada" or "Germany" was printed on it.  

Edited March 12, 2018 by mnutzer

[Jean-Michel]

 

Original Canadian hoods - and of course lenses and cameras - are made of wood, the most important natural material growing in Canada.

 

How incorrect! I can assure you that all Canadian-made Leica lenses are carved from pure permanent Canadian ice.

[ramarren]

I don't really care much whether my lens hood is made of plastic or metal, or reprocessed bee poop for that matter, as long as it fits the lens correctly and does its job well.

 

What I don't like are the less-effective-than-they-ought-to-be retractable lens hoods that supplanted the excellent clip-on/removable lens hoods after a certain point in time on various lenses. It's annoying because now I have to find a good aftermarket supplier for lens hoods to use with those lenses. 

 

There are few things about a lens more annoying than when it has an ineffective and, later, loose lens hood built-in that now requires a service trip to keep it from rattling around uselessly. Ugh. 

[Ecar]

Fortunately, there's a pretty large choice of round metal (mostly) screw-in hoods - and matching caps - on the web.

But it's sometimes hard to find one that is effective and doesn't vignette.

And it can get harder if you are using filters.

The good news is that most of them are dirt cheap, so that trial and error is possible without breaking the bank.

I have ended up with a collection of these...

[Exodies]

Lens caps and hoods perplex me. They should follow a curve of continuous improvement. They don’t have to be set back by the introduction of novel materials which take time to be mastered, nor do they have to wait for advances in computing to bring out their full potential. They should simply get better and better and converge on one single connection design, one single compatibility with filters, and be capable of being churned out for farthings. It’s as though some novice were asked to design them from scratch for each new lens.

[lct]

Never seen a metal 12524 hood so far. Both Canadian and German versions are plastic and are otherwise identical AFAIK. 

 

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[ShivaYash]

Thanks for all the replies. Yes all hoods of this model number are plastic. I’ve had poor results when shooting without a hood. I have a metal hood too, an older round one. I’ll snap a pic for this thread at some point soon.

 

 

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[lct]

[...] I have a metal hood too, an older round one. [...]

 

Your round one is perhaps a 12504 clip-on vented hood (pic). 12585 (or 12585H) metal and 12538 plastic clip-on vented hoods can fit as well but i don't remember if the 35/2 v4 vignettes with them.

 

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[JohnnySeven]

I have a summicron 50mm midland with a german hood.   I have a summicron 35 midland with a Canadian hood.  I bought both lenses from Reinhold Mueller who worked in both wetzlar and midland.  He said the lenses and hoods where randomly matched by the retailers.  I don't think the photons care about the geographical origins of hoods.  I don't think the photons care about anything for that matter...

 

P.S. I just bought a nice screw on metal hood for my 50mm 1.5 Summarit made in china for $5.95cdn on amazon that looks great and does the trick. I don't think the photons care about that either but im happy!

Edited March 15, 2018 by JohnnySeven

[250swb]

Depends on the year of the lens but when Leitz Canada shut down the remaining components were sent to Wetzlar for use. This led to a few anomalies such as the last of the M4-P's being built at Wetzlar with 'Made in Canada' already engraved onto the top plate.