Reciprocity Posted March 8, 2018 Share #1 Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, I have had my M10 since late September, other than needing to adjust the vertical alignment upon receipt, no complaints really. I am finding it is brassing rather quickly at the strap areas though. On my M6 the plastic lugs prevent that from occurring but even with the leather guards on the supplied strap, the black finish is going quickly. I do wear it a lot bandoleer style when doing things so it is rarely in a bag. It's certainly not the end of the world as this camera see a lot of pro use but is anyone seeing this on their black M10? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 8, 2018 by Reciprocity Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/282528-m10-brasses-quickly/?do=findComment&comment=3476721'>More sharing options...
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fatihayoglu Posted March 8, 2018 Share #2 Posted March 8, 2018 Have you tried using an eraser to brush it off? Few people have had this issue before and apparently rubber eraser works Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted March 8, 2018 Share #3 Posted March 8, 2018 Yes, in the region where the straps rub the body the black wears easily. When I saw the first traces I put two small patches of black adhesive tape on the the places. No worries anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 8, 2018 Share #4 Posted March 8, 2018 I'm disappointed that the top does not appear to be brass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted March 8, 2018 Share #5 Posted March 8, 2018 It is brass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobert Posted March 8, 2018 Share #6 Posted March 8, 2018 Yes, in the region where the straps rub the body the black wears easily. When I saw the first traces I put two small patches of black adhesive tape on the the places. No worries anymore. I did the same, but I used the soft half of Velcro. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciprocity Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share #7 Posted March 8, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes, in the region where the straps rub the body the black wears easily. When I saw the first traces I put two small patches of black adhesive tape on the the places. No worries anymore. I tried that early on and it wore and fell off so I gave up. Like I said in the opening post it is not the end of the world, it will get well worn over the next few years for sure. I was just curious if others were seeing this and it seems that they are so all good I guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted March 8, 2018 Share #8 Posted March 8, 2018 I'm disappointed that the top does not appear to be brass. Just wait for another year and your disappointment will wear off. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsprow Posted March 8, 2018 Share #9 Posted March 8, 2018 My wife loaned me some clear nail polish which I use on the strap area in all cameras with metal bodies. Works great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 8, 2018 Share #10 Posted March 8, 2018 It is brass. Thanks. So the exposes grey is primer or an over-brass coating? . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted March 8, 2018 Share #11 Posted March 8, 2018 If they are indeed "black chrome" the black just rubs to expose the silver colored plating layer underneath - probably still silver chrome like the black chrome M6, etc. Most of the old back chrome bodies now show at least slight silver tints on the edges, which is NOT the zinc base metal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 8, 2018 Share #12 Posted March 8, 2018 If they are indeed "black chrome" the black just rubs to expose the silver colored plating layer underneath - probably still silver chrome like the black chrome M6, etc. Most of the old back chrome bodies now show at least slight silver tints on the edges, which is NOT the zinc base metal. So, is the top brass underneath that stuff or not? . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted March 8, 2018 Share #13 Posted March 8, 2018 So, is the top brass underneath that stuff or not? . From the Leica brochure: "body components machined from solid brass, a full-metal, magnesium alloy chassis" so looks like the top plate (a body component I assume) is brass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 8, 2018 Share #14 Posted March 8, 2018 So, is the top brass underneath that stuff or not? . Hi Pico, all black chrome bodies wear like that, to a silver/grey base. Severe wear on the M will eventually show the brass underneath, or you could take a file to it to make sure! Black paint - the more 'glossy' black finish, quickly wears off to show the brass underneath. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted March 8, 2018 Share #15 Posted March 8, 2018 Thanks. So the exposes grey is primer or an over-brass coating? . It’s a zinc base coat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted March 8, 2018 Share #16 Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) Thanks. So the exposes grey is primer or an over-brass coating? . So, is the top brass underneath that stuff or not? . If you took a file to the M10 top plate you’d soon see plenty of yellow brass showing through. Edited March 8, 2018 by wattsy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 8, 2018 Share #17 Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) Thank you everyone. I have only one black chrome Leica and it is not worn, the black enamel bodies all show brass with wear. What do you think Leica's rationale is for the zinc undercoat? I have to admit, possibly due to my ignorance, that their black chrome is just crap. I have glossy black 'chrome-like' motorcycle parts that show no wear after thirty years. A lot of the gloss or dull black finishes depends upon the polishing (or none) of the under-layer. Maybe Leica is lazy. I wonder if Leica would ever dare to release a plain brass version with a protective coating. Edited March 8, 2018 by pico Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted March 8, 2018 Share #18 Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) What do you think Leica's rationale is for the zinc undercoat? Its probably nickel not zinc. From my reading I think that 'black chrome' is a mix of chromium and other metals and it is plated over nickel which in turn is plated over the original metal (brass). It looks as though the process has changed over the years (chromium is not a pleasant material in chemical forms) so its not clear if the process used by Leica today is the same as used in the past. Personally I prefer black paint ..... Edited March 8, 2018 by pgk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted March 8, 2018 Share #19 Posted March 8, 2018 I wonder if Leica would ever dare to release a plain brass version with a protective coating. Gold plated yes, brass no! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted March 8, 2018 Share #20 Posted March 8, 2018 I wonder if Leica would ever dare to release a plain brass version with a protective coating.They did - well 50 anyway..... Leica M Monochrom "Jim Marshall Set" with Leica Summilux-M 50 mm f/1.4 ASPH https://leicastoremiami.com/products/leica-m-monochrom-jim-marshall-br-set-with-leica-summilux-m-50-mm-br-f-1-4-asph?variant=38094592464 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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