BernardC Posted March 10, 2018 Share #121 Posted March 10, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am late to this thread, and I don't want to criticize other people's choices. That being said, the way I would have solved the problem is by renting (or borrowing) a professional camera, like a 1DX-2, for the day. Obviously, the original poster has reasons for wanting to get out of the SL system that go beyond a high school fashion show, so this isn't targeted to him specifically. On a related note, I remember watching a doc on NY fashion photographers. Not the 3 or 4 big names, but the hundreds that are a rung down. One thing that struck me is that they all used similar expensive cameras (Hasselblad), and lighting gear. It seemed odd that all of these struggling photographers could afford $50,000+ of equipment. Then there was a scene at a rental house on the morning of a big shoot... The reason why the gear looks so similar is because all of these up-and-coming photographers are using exactly the same gear from the same rental houses. They aren't paying usurious loans on high-end gear, hoping for a Vogue spread or advertising campaign. Most of their work is shot on typical Canon/Nikon gear, and they rent the big guns if the job requires it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dancook Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share #122 Posted March 10, 2018 Renting in the UK is not cheap and I wouldn't want to rent new gear I've never used for a job I need to get right. A9 rental body alone is £100+vat a day. It's a two hour event. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted March 10, 2018 Share #123 Posted March 10, 2018 Dan, Fair enough. The local availability of pro gear rental varies greatly. Another thing I would consider is setting-up a video camera at the end of the runway (presuming they have the usual walk-out/spin/walk-back setup), with focus locked-off. I would shoot the video in portrait (vertical) format. This gives you two things: some extra insurance that you've captured a shot of every model (albeit at lower quality), and the option of delivering short videos that are suitable for social media use. This sort of deliverable is very popular with the wedding crowd, who are usually around 10 years older. I can see it being a hit with teens. It's a lot of extra work, especially in prep and post, but I think that short videos will become a standard/expected thing very quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if the next generation of still cameras offered this (a mode where the camera saves 5 seconds of video footage centred around every shutter click). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyniev Posted March 10, 2018 Share #124 Posted March 10, 2018 Dan, Can you "hire" a second photographer who owns a Nikon or Canon at least an D850 or 5D4, plus 70-200 lenses...this is the best way you capture all participants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share #125 Posted March 10, 2018 I will need to hire someone anyway to take candid shots and event shots from around the outside. Like the ones you see I took and blurred. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share #126 Posted March 10, 2018 Terrible photo, I had the AF set to wide c-af, it was following these birds around on a bright cloudy sky and against trees. Now everyone will tell me that's pretty standard, even the SL can do it. Birds against white by dancook1982, on Flickr 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted March 10, 2018 Share #127 Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) This is A7RIII with 24-70 f/2.8 vs SL and 24-90. They are very similar. You can also check the Sony with 24-70 f/4. http://camerasize.com/compact/#724.515,639.496,ha,t Interesting... same size!! The 24-90 gets us out 20mm further, but at the cost of 2.8 vs F4. I would assume the Leica lens is “better”.... but I probably would never notice without pixel peeping. and I’m HAPPY with my SL Edited March 10, 2018 by Donzo98 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share #128 Posted March 10, 2018 So a few shots from London - just mashing the shutter button using Wide Area Continuous AF + face detection, whilst walking and using f2.8 at 1/1000th shutter speed. Wasn't really trying to compose shots, but just trying to gauge the C-AF/Face Tracking/Speed of the camera - and I like it.... Bunch of crap by dancook1982, on Flickr Bunch of crap by dancook1982, on Flickr Bunch of crap by dancook1982, on Flickr Bunch of crap by dancook1982, on Flickr Bunch of crap by dancook1982, on Flickr Bunch of crap by dancook1982, on Flickr Bunch of crap by dancook1982, on Flickr Bunch of crap by dancook1982, on Flickr 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyniev Posted March 10, 2018 Share #129 Posted March 10, 2018 I have not used face tracking because I think it slows down the AF,I simply use single point focus on the eye and recompose while holding back focus button to track, have you tested without face tracking? BTW I viewed your flickr collection and liked them...I also have a home theater 120 inch screen 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share #130 Posted March 10, 2018 I have not used face tracking because I think it slows down the AF,I simply use single point focus on the eye and recompose while holding back focus button to track, have you tested without face tracking? BTW I viewed your flickr collection and liked them...I also have a home theater 120 inch screen thanks! Haven't tried it without face tracking, but I see that I'm going to need two saved setups one for wide area face tracking and another for single point no face tracking We had an extension built, so I planned a home cinema for our extended lounge https://cookhousestory.wordpress.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share #131 Posted March 10, 2018 Oh and I added a bit of selective colouring, because hey - I shot with a Sony ;D Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyniev Posted March 10, 2018 Share #132 Posted March 10, 2018 Dan nice home theater a view from my home theater Dec blog posting https://tonyniev.wordpress.com/2017/12/16/2017-projects-update-and-2018-outlook/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share #133 Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) Dan nice home theater a view from my home theater Dec blog posting https://tonyniev.wordpress.com/2017/12/16/2017-projects-update-and-2018-outlook/ looks like a huge television nice! Edited March 10, 2018 by dancook 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
apertur Posted March 10, 2018 Share #134 Posted March 10, 2018 I have tried the A9 and think it is fabulous. M for manual with 28-35-50-90 and the A9 for candit shooting where fast AF is needed. Also electro tic shutter in sunlight with a 35 1.4 is fun too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted March 10, 2018 Share #135 Posted March 10, 2018 So a few shots from London - just mashing the shutter button using Wide Area Continuous AF + face detection, whilst walking and using f2.8 at 1/1000th shutter speed. Wasn't really trying to compose shots, but just trying to gauge the C-AF/Face Tracking/Speed of the camera - and I like it.... Bunch of crap by dancook1982, on Flickr Bunch of crap by dancook1982, on Flickr Bunch of crap by dancook1982, on Flickr Bunch of crap by dancook1982, on Flickr Bunch of crap by dancook1982, on Flickr Bunch of crap by dancook1982, on Flickr Bunch of crap by dancook1982, on Flickr Bunch of crap by dancook1982, on Flickr They look fantastic man!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share #136 Posted March 10, 2018 They look fantastic man!! thanks, I just feel dirty because I was lazy about it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antigallican Posted March 10, 2018 Share #137 Posted March 10, 2018 There's an actual requirement to photograph multiple portraits of every model walking towards the camera on a catwalk during a school fashion show event. The previous photographer used a 1dx for this. I know what you mean otherwise. It's the modern affection for shallow depth of field that causes any problem here. I've taken pictures of a child running towards me (your other example) with a Rolleiflex Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Q Posted March 11, 2018 Share #138 Posted March 11, 2018 So you replaced your SL's with A9's? Or your entire Leica gear, including the M10 and Q? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share #139 Posted March 11, 2018 So you replaced your SL's with A9's? Or your entire Leica gear, including the M10 and Q? Well I still own all the leica, I won't be too hasty because I make rash decisions all the time However Im thinking about complementing the Sony with hasselblad x2d.... In which case I may sell all my leica gear But let's give it at least a month.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eprom Posted March 11, 2018 Share #140 Posted March 11, 2018 Try the Hassy before buying - I´ve heared more negatives than positives. Sure the camera looks cool and the name is promising, but operation and IQ seem to be not that good. Why don´t you try the Fuji GFX50s? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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