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Any Nikon flash I think will work as they all have a pc socket (I get old ones on eBay for this purpose and set them to manual) and then a longer (coiled cable to keep it neat) to the hotshoe adapter..The camera is set to manual ISO and then do a few test shots...Before you know it you can change your name to Dougie Wallace :-)

 

http://www.bjp-online.com/2015/10/dougiewallaceharrodsburg/

 

Although he has a flash above and below his Leica on a special rig, all neat and tidy so he can run away!

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I use a Nikon flash and a Phottix Ares wireless flash trigger set [ https://www.amazon.com/Phottix-Ares-Wireless-Flash-Trigger/dp/B00A4BR7KG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1518384272&sr=8-3&keywords=phottix+ares+wireless+trigger+set ] with my M-P 240. 

 

Works like a charm, as long as you are careful to not inadvertently change the channel on the transmitter connected to the flash.  If I get a misfire which is not very often, that's the first thing I check.

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An infrared filtered flash. It is a method practiced for seventy years already, but earlier with bulbs.

If you want to use two or more flashes, use one on the camera and slaves on the remotes.

No wireless required. (Slaves are IR sensitive)

 

I don't really expect anyone here to understand. Ponder.

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An infrared filtered flash. It is a method practiced for seventy years already, but earlier with bulbs.

If you want to use two or more flashes, use one on the camera and slaves on the remotes.

No wireless required. (Slaves are IR sensitive)

 

I don't really expect anyone here to understand. Ponder.

 

If I understand you correctly, you place optical slaves on the remote flash units.

 

You use one flash at the camera to trigger the optical slave flash units.

 

You cover the one flash at the camera with a dark infrared filter (probably 950nm).

 

When the camera fires the one flash at the camera, the infrared light output is not visible to the human eye.

 

However, the optical slaves see the infrared light and fire the remote slaves.

 

One possible disadvantage to this method is that if some else takes a photo with flash just before you do, it will prematurely fire your remote units and you will have to wait until your remote flash units have time to recharge.

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Until the recently rumoured Leica SF60 & SF C1 Commander becomes reality (ie. available), the current wirelessly trigger by 3rd parties are only capable to support no TTL/HSS.

I found the neatest set up to be Phottix Ares II trigger pair with Phottix Juno manual flash (with built in transrecever). The set up allows the flash to receive signal from the wireless trigger directly saving one the trouble to set up receiver to off camera flash link (which is crumble some and post reliability issue) for photographers on the go. Alternatively is to use a Nikon compatable hotshoe extention cord to link the camera to off camera leica flash, which you get TTL/HSS in a low cost and reliable set up.

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I would recommend a Vivitar 283, used with a VP-1 cord. The VP-1 plugs into the sensor hole on the flash. The other end  of the VP-1 slips into the hot shoe. And the sensor, or Vari-Power module slips into the VP-1 end on the hot shoe. Exposures are calculated from the position of the hot shoe, no matter where you hold the flash off camera.

You could of course use a remote trigger, but that is a perhaps cleaner method, but involves batteries.

It is easy to find a mint 283, they made many of them. They work forever.

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I've used a wireless trigger system for the past 4-5 years, with Pocketwizards and s/h Nikon SB28 flashes. I'm now planning to upgrade to remote wireless power control. I added a SF64 last year, which alerted me to how bad a manual flash interface can be - it takes about 5 operations on an insensitive touchscreen to change the power by a stop. So I was interested to hear the rumours of the new Leica system. The best guess is that it will be based on the Nissin i60a and Air 1 or Air 10s. I had a look at the i60a yesterday and thought it a bit flimsy, and the controls a bit small, but otherwise the functionality looks good and the interface a big step up.

 

Its competitor in my mind is Godox, which is much cheaper, and has a bigger ecosystem of units which can talk to each other, but would lack the ability to get aperture/ISO/shutter information from a Leica body. It would also lack the ability to shoot HSS which would be attractive for shooting at wide apertures, but I suppose I could use ND filters.

 

Technology is accelerating rapidly in the off-camera lighting sector. I should wait to check what Leica's system looks like.

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I've used a wireless trigger system for the past 4-5 years, with Pocketwizards and s/h Nikon SB28 flashes. I'm now planning to upgrade to remote wireless power control. I added a SF64 last year, which alerted me to how bad a manual flash interface can be - it takes about 5 operations on an insensitive touchscreen to change the power by a stop. So I was interested to hear the rumours of the new Leica system. The best guess is that it will be based on the Nissin i60a and Air 1 or Air 10s. I had a look at the i60a yesterday and thought it a bit flimsy, and the controls a bit small, but otherwise the functionality looks good and the interface a big step up.

 

Its competitor in my mind is Godox, which is much cheaper, and has a bigger ecosystem of units which can talk to each other, but would lack the ability to get aperture/ISO/shutter information from a Leica body. It would also lack the ability to shoot HSS which would be attractive for shooting at wide apertures, but I suppose I could use ND filters.

 

Technology is accelerating rapidly in the off-camera lighting sector. I should wait to check what Leica's system looks like.

Likewise I’m looking forward to the soon to be released SF60 & SF C1 Commander to do off camera HSS. In my wish list is for the system to have TTL setting memory & can be converted to Manual mode at the flip of a switch. TTL brings convenience but inconsistency, so when s test shot looked good on lighting and can be locked into manual, it saves time to measure the light output with light meter or more manual setting trials.

Before the new flash system becomes available, I will continue to work on using manual flash to provider hyper sync coverage off camera on optical slave mode as my main light. With my SF58 mounted on hot shoe set at M-HSS acting as master flash and additional fill light. This set up allows me to break the camera low sync speed and use off camera lighting outdoors with bright ambient light.

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Normally I bounce the flash, so it works fine in the camera hot shoe.  But if I am in a situation where I have to use direct flash, I employ the Sean Reid approach of hand holding the flash on a Nikon flash extension cord.  That gets the flash off camera and allows me to create some directionality to the light and avoid the flat "flash face."  Like Sean I add a wrist strap to the tripod mount hole on the flash end of the cord so the flash can dangle while I'm focusing.

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  Like Sean I add a wrist strap to the tripod mount hole on the flash end of the cord so the flash can dangle while I'm focusing.

I must be dumb as a stump. The only "tripod mount hole" I know of is on a camera body not "flash end of the cord".

What am I missing? A pic would help a lot. Wouldn't be the first time I was found to be an idiot )

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The only "tripod mount hole" I know of is on a camera body not "flash end of the cord".

 The Nikon TTL flash extension cords have a 1/4" - 16 threaded hole at the bottom of the end containing the hot shoe for the remote flash.  This allows the remote flash to be mounted on a tripod, flash bracket,  or lightstand.

 

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Normally I bounce the flash, so it works fine in the camera hot shoe. But if I am in a situation where I have to use direct flash, I employ the Sean Reid approach of hand holding the flash on a Nikon flash extension cord. That gets the flash off camera and allows me to create some directionality to the light and avoid the flat "flash face." Like Sean I add a wrist strap to the tripod mount hole on the flash end of the cord so the flash can dangle while I'm focusing.

Hi Luke,

I’ve been using the ‘Nikon’ extension cord approach and liked it a lot cause It is simple & reliable especially while I travel, I want to keep inventory to minimal. I attach the flash end of the extension cord to a Selfi stick with a wrist stripe. However there is distance limitation which will be fine for 50mm and shorter focal length lens. When I take the shot from 75mm onwards full body length shot, the off camera flash distance within an arm’s length diminishes. So a off camera triggering will be required.

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 The Nikon TTL flash extension cords have a 1/4" - 16 threaded hole at the bottom of the end containing the hot shoe for the remote flash.  This allows the remote flash to be mounted on a tripod, flash bracket,  or lightstand.

 

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Thanks so much, did not know this. Learn something new everyday.

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