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23 TL vs 35 TL - best prime to start with?

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Having previously owned the 23, and just recently got the 35...I hav eri say the 35 is in a different league. The 35 has a beautiful rendering. The 23 was, for me, just ok. (I much prefer the 24 Elmarit on my X2 to the 23-T lens).

 

I’ve just ordered a 18 and I hope it captures a bit of the X2’s magic.

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Having previously owned the 23, and just recently got the 35...I hav eri say the 35 is in a different league. The 35 has a beautiful rendering. The 23 was, for me, just ok. (I much prefer the 24 Elmarit on my X2 to the 23-T lens).

 

I’ve just ordered a 18 and I hope it captures a bit of the X2’s magic.

 

The 35mm is almost continuously glued to my CL these days, and I have the other lenses as well.  I only reach for the 23mm or the 18mm when I really have to.  

 

The only lens that comes anywhere close as far as rendering is concerned IMO is the 60mm but it is a focal length that I use less.

 

Some people put the 11-23 in the same category as the 35mm and the 60mm but I personally kind of disagree with that...

 

How do you find the weight?  I found it a bit front heavy in the beginning but now I hardly notice it anymore.  

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The 35mm is almost continuously glued to my CL these days, and I have the other lenses as well.  I only reach for the 23mm or the 18mm when I really have to.  

 

The only lens that comes anywhere close as far as rendering is concerned IMO is the 60mm but it is a focal length that I use less.

 

Some people put the 11-23 in the same category as the 35mm and the 60mm but I personally kind of disagree with that...

 

How do you find the weight?  I found it a bit front heavy in the beginning but now I hardly notice it anymore.

 

It’s not a small lens, but it’s really no bigger than the 18-56, and just a little heavier. Images make up for the added “burden”! I really like it, more than I thought I would.

 

The 18 is definitely an Elmarit - same rendering as the x2 and very similar to my M28. It’s a rendering style I have come to appreciate. Contrasty, sharp, bold colors, with character. Nice in the right sort of lighting.

 

I’m thinking of the 55-135 next, if only to make the 35 seem smaller.

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I´m planning to buy a CL and I already have several M lenses: Elmarit 1:2.8/28, Summicron 1:2/35, Summilux 1:2/50 and Elmarit 1:2,8/90 plus several R lenses that I think are very bulky  for travelling with the CL. My question is what will be the best lens to be used with the CL specially for traveling  light? Or perhaps an M adaptor and one of the lenses I already own will do the job?

Thanks for your advise.

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I got the 18 then added the 23 as I like 35mm equivalent. The 28mm M with adapter works well also but autofocus is

really nice with the TL lenses. You will love this camera. Haven’t picked up my M7 or M8 since CL came.

Cheers,Dan

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I´m planning to buy a CL and I already have several M lenses: Elmarit 1:2.8/28, Summicron 1:2/35, Summilux 1:2/50 and Elmarit 1:2,8/90 plus several R lenses that I think are very bulky  for travelling with the CL. My question is what will be the best lens to be used with the CL specially for traveling  light? Or perhaps an M adaptor and one of the lenses I already own will do the job?

Thanks for your advise.

 

I have no experience with TL lenses but a 28/35/50 M set is compact enough indeed. Maybe 28 is a bit too long a focal length though. Here's one of my favorite travel set: CV 21/4, Summarit 35/2.5 and Summarit 50/2.5. An Elmarit 28/2.8 asph would be compact enough (i have always a v1 in my luggage) and your Summi(cron?) 50/2 would fit very well also.

 

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I´m planning to buy a CL and I already have several M lenses: Elmarit 1:2.8/28, Summicron 1:2/35, Summilux 1:2/50 and Elmarit 1:2,8/90 plus several R lenses that I think are very bulky  for travelling with the CL. My question is what will be the best lens to be used with the CL specially for traveling  light? Or perhaps an M adaptor and one of the lenses I already own will do the job?

Thanks for your advise.

In my opinion a good traveler and light set will be CL+TL18-56 and TL35/1.4 for night photographs from the hand.

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I´m planning to buy a CL and I already have several M lenses: Elmarit 1:2.8/28, Summicron 1:2/35, Summilux 1:2/50 and Elmarit 1:2,8/90 plus several R lenses that I think are very bulky for travelling with the CL. My question is what will be the best lens to be used with the CL specially for traveling light? Or perhaps an M adaptor and one of the lenses I already own will do the job?

Thanks for your advise.

Try the M adapter and the 28/50 you have. Maybe add the 23 later

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Ijust got back from 3 weeks in Dubai, Sydney and Hong Kong from Canada. I have all the TL zooms as well as the 35 and 60. Used the 11-23 and the 18-56 the majority of the time but loved using the Almarit M 2.8/21 ASPH for street photography in Hong Kong. Thought I would use the TL 35 1.4 at night more but the high ISO capability of the CL allowed the more flexible slower zooms.

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I'm not sure if this is an issue that's been discussed before, but I've had the 23 Summicron for a few weeks and note that in close focus the maximum f stop goes to 2.5 or even 2.8 at closest range. I have the 35 Summilux and it stays at f1.4 at its closest focus range. Is this a known issue with the 23?

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I'm not sure if this is an issue that's been discussed before, but I've had the 23 Summicron for a few weeks and note that in close focus the maximum f stop goes to 2.5 or even 2.8 at closest range. I have the 35 Summilux and it stays at f1.4 at its closest focus range. Is this a known issue with the 23?

 

 

Leica did this with the X typ 113's Summilux 23mm f/1.7 ASPH lens too, to maintain imaging quality in the close focus range. It was never a problem, and makes perfect sense to me: you need to stop down for enough DoF when working close up anyway, so I don't see what the issue is. 

 

I didn't buy any lenses when I bought the CL since I already had a full complement of both M and R mount lenses with focal length choices from 16mm to 180mm (360mm including the doubler on the 180mm). My usual working kit is comprised of R lenses because I like their ergonomics on the CL body: Elmarit-R 28mm f/2.8 and Summilux-R 50mm f/1.4 are my standard pair (a wide-normal and a short-portrait tele), supplemented by Elmarit-R 19mm f/2.8, Summicron-R 90mm, and Elmar-R 180mm. By and large, I'll carry mostly the 28 and 50 as my usual kit. The old R19mm is somewhat bulky; I might be tempted to buy the Elmarit-TL 18mm f/2.8 to be my wide for travel because it's so compact, but I'm in no rush at all to do it.

 

BTW: I realized I hadn't tested my ancient Hektor 135mm f/4.5 on the CL yet, so I pulled it out today to do some test shots. And I have to tell you: Although this lens is roundly criticized for its flare and poor sharpness by many, it seems to outperform its reputation on the CL handily. It's nice because the Hektor is a thin, light lens with a 200mm equivalent reach, a tripod mount on the lens barrel, and only cost me something like $180 a few years ago.

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