antigallican Posted January 3, 2018 Share #1 Posted January 3, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I used my SL + 24-90 today in a vertical orientation - I was copying paintings. I had a problem with the lens drifting or slipping ie going from the 24 end towards the 90. Of course it lost focus too, but it was the focal length which was drifting out, caused I guess by the weight of the front elements of the lens. Has anyone else had this problem? Can anyone replicate it? Maybe I'm expecting too much for the lens to stay in one place pointed downwards. Thanks John 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LocalHero1953 Posted January 3, 2018 Share #2 Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) Was it on a tripod? Did you try it with OIS switched off? Could you see the lens barrel moving? Or was it just in the EVF? Edited January 3, 2018 by LocalHero1953 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted January 3, 2018 Share #3 Posted January 3, 2018 I used my SL + 24-90 today in a vertical orientation - I was copying paintings. I had a problem with the lens drifting or slipping ie going from the 24 end towards the 90. Of course it lost focus too, but it was the focal length which was drifting out, caused I guess by the weight of the front elements of the lens. Has anyone else had this problem? Can anyone replicate it? Maybe I'm expecting too much for the lens to stay in one place pointed downwards. Thanks John This sort of "zoom creep" is pretty common. My 24-90 will creep a little bit then stop--it won't just keep going to 90. The obvious solution is to bring some masking tape with you. Once you have set the zoom, tape the ring. Effective, though perhaps not elegant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. G Posted January 4, 2018 Share #4 Posted January 4, 2018 I use one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050KEEW0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 You can adjust it so that the amount of resistance to the zoom ring can be dialed in. It works surprisingly well. I like it because I tend to take bracketed shots of plated dishes that I'm later combining in Aurora and can't afford to have any variation in my focal length. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted January 4, 2018 Share #5 Posted January 4, 2018 Mine will creep some starting at 50 but not at 24. I don't think any zoom was really intended for copy work. My old Nikon zooms would creep if you just looked at them. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antigallican Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share #6 Posted January 4, 2018 Thanks all. At least I know it’s not a peculiarity or fault of my lens! John Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoySmith Posted January 4, 2018 Share #7 Posted January 4, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) The strap I use keeps the camera pointing down and the lens creeps quite quickly from 24mm to 90mm. I now have an wide elastic covering part of the zoom ring to prevent it. I am annoyed by this - but its a great lens otherwise. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donzo98 Posted January 4, 2018 Share #8 Posted January 4, 2018 I use one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050KEEW0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 You can adjust it so that the amount of resistance to the zoom ring can be dialed in. It works surprisingly well. I like it because I tend to take bracketed shots of plated dishes that I'm later combining in Aurora and can't afford to have any variation in my focal length. Can you post a pic of it in place?? Curious to see how it fits on the WIDE 24-90.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 4, 2018 Share #9 Posted January 4, 2018 It’s an effect referred to as ‘gravity’. For a more dramatic demonstration hold your camera from chest height and let go. You will see how it creeps to the ground very very fast! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenter Posted January 7, 2018 Share #10 Posted January 7, 2018 I used my SL + 24-90 today in a vertical orientation - I was copying paintings. I had a problem with the lens drifting or slipping ie going from the 24 end towards the 90. Of course it lost focus too, but it was the focal length which was drifting out, caused I guess by the weight of the front elements of the lens. Has anyone else had this problem? Can anyone replicate it? Maybe I'm expecting too much for the lens to stay in one place pointed downwards. Thanks John Hi John, I have the same problem. I phoned with Leica in Germany. This is the answer: Thank you for your inquiry. We are sorry to have to learn of the problem mentioned in your mail. I have talked to our technician and he said that this lens does have a smooth running guidance and he asked to send the lens to our customer care department here in Germany. He will check if he can optimise it as much as possible. Please let us know when you would like to send it and we will send you an UPS label for a free shipment. Good Luck, Lenter 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antigallican Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share #11 Posted January 7, 2018 Hi John, I have the same problem. I phoned with Leica in Germany. This is the answer: Thank you for your inquiry. We are sorry to have to learn of the problem mentioned in your mail. I have talked to our technician and he said that this lens does have a smooth running guidance and he asked to send the lens to our customer care department here in Germany. He will check if he can optimise it as much as possible. Please let us know when you would like to send it and we will send you an UPS label for a free shipment. Good Luck, Lenter Thanks Lenter. If I thought Leica wouldn't want to hang on to the lens for a couple of months I might try that. My short term solution was to use a Summicron 50 and an Elmarit 90 - ie not use the zoom! John Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antigallican Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share #12 Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) Was it on a tripod? Did you try it with OIS switched off? Could you see the lens barrel moving? Or was it just in the EVF? It was on a tripod, I could see the lens barrel move and I'm afraid I can't figure out what OIS means. It happened with autofocus and without, if that's the question Thanks Edited January 7, 2018 by antigallican 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 7, 2018 Share #13 Posted January 7, 2018 It was on a tripod, I could see the lens barrel move and I'm afraid I can't figure out what OIS means. It happened with autofocus and without, if that's the question Thanks (Optical) Image Stabilization Jeff 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antigallican Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share #14 Posted January 7, 2018 (Optical) Image Stabilization Jeff Ah thanks. No, I didn't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenter Posted January 12, 2018 Share #15 Posted January 12, 2018 SL 24-90 Drifting sorry for the bad quality https://youtu.be/3rtb9CMDsns 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antigallican Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share #16 Posted January 16, 2018 Yes that's it. Mine goes a bit quicker than that. In fairness OIS (now I know what it means) on or off doesn't seem to make a lot of difference. I went back with a 50 Summicron and a 90 Elmarit and reshot. Nothing lost but a bit of pride and a litre or two of petrol. But I could have done without setting lights up again etc. Next time I'll leave the 24-90 at home if I'm copying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenter Posted January 18, 2018 Share #17 Posted January 18, 2018 Yes that's it. Mine goes a bit quicker than that. In fairness OIS (now I know what it means) on or off doesn't seem to make a lot of difference. I went back with a 50 Summicron and a 90 Elmarit and reshot. Nothing lost but a bit of pride and a litre or two of petrol. But I could have done without setting lights up again etc. Next time I'll leave the 24-90 at home if I'm copying. To day I send my lens to Leica in Germany. I keep you inform. Lenter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 18, 2018 Share #18 Posted January 18, 2018 To day I send my lens to Leica in Germany. I keep you inform. Lenter What do you expect them to do? Most larger zoom lenses will do this. Some are fitted with locks although usually at one end or other of the range. As I said above it's all to do with gravity! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladik Posted January 24, 2018 Share #19 Posted January 24, 2018 This 24-90 creep is a deal breaker for me, I was planning to buy this lens and mainly use it on tripod for landscape and nature photography. In many application the lens would be pointing downwards and the last thing I would like it to creep. Have you try if it creeps from 90 towards 24 pointed up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpittal Posted January 24, 2018 Share #20 Posted January 24, 2018 for vertical closeups and copystand work, you may want to consider one of the great R macros (I use the apo 100 macro-Elmarit-R with Elpro, which is reasonably priced on the used market) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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