jmahto Posted December 18, 2017 Share #41 Posted December 18, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I want tilt screen (or tiltable EVF). It is so handy in many handheld shooting situations as well as on tripod. And IBIS. Give me these two and I won't date Sony. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FlashGordonPhotography Posted December 18, 2017 Share #42 Posted December 18, 2017 I want tilt screen (or tiltable EVF). It is so handy in many handheld shooting situations as well as on tripod. And IBIS. Give me these two and I won't date Sony. While I agree and want them too I think the camera would need to be thicker to accommodate both. I'd be OK with some IS lenses. I've already ordered one of those hot shoe mount phone holders which will solve the flippy screen issue (for me anyway). Gordon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonzo Posted December 18, 2017 Share #43 Posted December 18, 2017 The SL lenses are big and defeat the purpose of a smaller camera, camera stabilisation is more efficient and pretty much the norm in cameras especially in this price range. I would bet that Leica is already developing IS lenses for the CL, it`s just a matter of time ... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imants Posted December 18, 2017 Share #44 Posted December 18, 2017 I would bet that Leica is already developing IS lenses for the CL, it`s just a matter of time ......Samuel Beckett 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lx1713 Posted December 18, 2017 Share #45 Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) I do think the CL is not the ideal complement to my SL that I would like but as it stands the CL fits my idea of a really compact, high quality backup that keeps weight down. Because the UI and handling is different, I wouldn't actually pull it out except with a 18mm or when the SL fails me. That's the miss for me. I think the 1.5X crop OIS lenses, fast zooms will come but Leica users do hold Leica to a higher standard, so what we have are the low hanging fruits that come first. What's already done aren't rushed jobs nor inadequate optically. The TL lenses ARE compact. I do really need a fast set of the holy trinity of 1.5X lenses if 1.5x is the game that I need to play. These, I hope will have OIS and perhaps an IBIS body to match. Full frame is not always needed. Edited December 18, 2017 by lx1713 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share #46 Posted December 18, 2017 Has nobody noticed that IS is a menu item on the camera? Look in the favourites menu - there is an option to switch Image Stabilisation to on... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted December 18, 2017 Share #47 Posted December 18, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Has nobody noticed that IS is a menu item on the camera? Look in the favourites menu - there is an option to switch Image Stabilisation to on... it only works with the SL zooms attached ....... or future OIS Leica lenses .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share #48 Posted December 18, 2017 Indeed - but it does point in a direction... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayewing Posted December 18, 2017 Share #49 Posted December 18, 2017 Indeed - but it does point in a direction... It certainly gives us hope. Unlikely to be available with a firmware upgrade. I think we may have to wait for CL Mark2. In the meantime it would be nice if my pre-ordered CL + 18-56 Zoom would turn up before Christmas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share #50 Posted December 18, 2017 Just got mine (ordered ten days ago) Nice. I don't understand the gripes with the menu system. I find it rather practical and intuitive. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted December 18, 2017 Share #51 Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) While I agree and want them too I think the camera would need to be thicker to accommodate both. I'd be OK with some IS lenses. I've already ordered one of those hot shoe mount phone holders which will solve the flippy screen issue (for me anyway). Gordon I can also go with the using phone for screen, however it doesn't have to be thicker. See Sony A6500 which has IBIS and tilt screen as well. Lens based IS is no go for me. It will be a while they have 400mm IS lens which weighs same as my current use of 180APO3.4+2XAPO (this combo has become my got to long lens on Sony APS-C). I would love to use this combo on a sensor stabilized camera. https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/279989-yellow-warbler/?p=3420712 Edited December 18, 2017 by jmahto Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted December 18, 2017 Share #52 Posted December 18, 2017 Just got mine (ordered ten days ago) Nice. I don't understand the gripes with the menu system. I find it rather practical and intuitive. Waiting for your impression. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share #53 Posted December 18, 2017 Days are short and I leave both house and work in the dark... A soon as possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted December 18, 2017 Share #54 Posted December 18, 2017 Days are short and I leave both house and work in the dark... A soon as possible. I am too impatient to wait till summer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted December 18, 2017 Share #55 Posted December 18, 2017 Just got mine (ordered ten days ago) Nice. I don't understand the gripes with the menu system. I find it rather practical and intuitive. I agree. But I prefer the, even more intuitive, and faster, TL2 system! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted December 18, 2017 Share #56 Posted December 18, 2017 Has nobody noticed that IS is a menu item on the camera? Look in the favourites menu - there is an option to switch Image Stabilisation to on... The TL has the same options. Unfortunately nothing new here. I think they might introduce an IS lens or two over time. It was a big mistake to not have them now. And the CL just got savaged on the Camera Store review for exactly that reason. Gordon Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VVJ Posted December 18, 2017 Share #57 Posted December 18, 2017 I would bet that Leica is already developing IS lenses for the CL, it`s just a matter of time ... A roadmap would be nice although I doubt we will ever see another one from Leica after the SL debacle... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted December 19, 2017 Share #58 Posted December 19, 2017 One more thing I really wish the TL/CL lenses had. An aperture ring. Gordon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share #59 Posted December 19, 2017 Waiting for your impression. Fits like a glove. I really think this is a perfect camera for me. I never expected to use the 18-56, but it is such a nice combo that I popped it into my Kleine Kombitasche M (another perfect fit, BTW), added the Elmarit 90 M and it forms a beautiful travel kit. The M240 (departed for China today) will not be missed. For my African travels, I have the Vario-Elmar 105-280 (glad it didn't sell;) ) and GX8 for stabilized up to 1300 equivalent (1.4x extender) and general backup. Same batteries across the systems too. The whole kit will easily fit into my ancient Reporter backpack. Completely happy. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmahto Posted December 19, 2017 Share #60 Posted December 19, 2017 Fits like a glove. I really think this is a perfect camera for me. I never expected to use the 18-56, but it is such a nice combo that I popped it into my Kleine Kombitasche M (another perfect fit, BTW), added the Elmarit 90 M and it forms a beautiful travel kit. The M240 (departed for China today) will not be missed. For my African travels, I have the Vario-Elmar 105-280 (glad it didn't sell;) ) and GX8 for stabilized up to 1300 equivalent (1.4x extender) and general backup. Same batteries across the systems too. The whole kit will easily fit into my ancient Reporter backpack. Completely happy. Wow. Thanks for valued feedback. Selling FF M is hard for me that's why I started another thread to get people's impression. I can see using my APS-C Sony more and more now a days. You are making life hard for me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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