james.liam Posted December 2, 2017 Share #1 Posted December 2, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Both later version; Canon 50/1.4 or Nikon 50/1.4? How do they differ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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derleicaman Posted December 8, 2017 Share #2 Posted December 8, 2017 Both are decent lenses. I'd make sure you got a good clean example without haze or fog, although the Canon is fairly easy to service. The following are images I took with the Canon 50/1.4 and my MM at the Santana concert, House of Blues Las Vegas. I was very pleased with the reuslts. It did help to be seated 10-15 feet away from the stage! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/279432-which-5014-ltm-for-a-monochrom/?do=findComment&comment=3413397'>More sharing options...
derleicaman Posted December 8, 2017 Share #3 Posted December 8, 2017 Image #2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/279432-which-5014-ltm-for-a-monochrom/?do=findComment&comment=3413398'>More sharing options...
derleicaman Posted December 8, 2017 Share #4 Posted December 8, 2017 Image #3 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/279432-which-5014-ltm-for-a-monochrom/?do=findComment&comment=3413400'>More sharing options...
4X5B&W Posted December 9, 2017 Share #5 Posted December 9, 2017 Great examples of quality vintage glass, and how well a CCD Monochrom can produce that classic film look. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share #6 Posted December 12, 2017 Great images. So no particularly distinguishing differences between them? Similar resolution, contrast? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted December 28, 2017 Share #7 Posted December 28, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have the Canon 1.4, and had it cleaned, lubricated and adjusted at Wil van Maanen @ Zoetermeer NL. He did a great job. I tried various Sonnar formulas which I did like for their intelligence but all had a focus shift I did not like. What I like is the tranquility of mind to be in total control of focussing. Here an example of the Canon at full opening and at 1 meter on the MM1 - the drawing fits the grain at 1250 asa. Steph 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share #8 Posted January 5, 2018 The Canon does not shift focus? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted January 5, 2018 Share #9 Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) The Canon does not shift focus? Canon 1.4/50 LTM is NOT Sonnar type formula. So it shifts focus less than Sonnar type lenses. It does shift a bit though with mine (about f/2 to f/4), normal for this type. A test here (ferider in RFF): https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155193 After seeing this test, I bought the 1.2/50 Canon LTM, it's nice and in use "better handling" than my Noctilux 1.0 in viewfinder blocage (1.2/50 very short lens). Edited January 5, 2018 by a.noctilux 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted January 6, 2018 Share #10 Posted January 6, 2018 Great images. So no particularly distinguishing differences between them? Similar resolution, contrast? They are very different lenses. The Canon is a Planar design, the Nikkor is a Sonnar (except the black Millennium Edition, which is also a Gauss and was issued much later and only in S mount for the S3). The Canon is a great lens, well corrected for its age, solid, reliable, sharp, etc. - but a bit "boring" (for a vintage lens, of course) IMO. Think of a pre-ASPH Summilux. The Nikkor is softer in the corners wide open with more "glow" and less contrast. Think of a classic, vintage newspaper look. AFAIC, I'm somewhat partial to Sonnars, particularly in B&W, and will happily accept some focus shift to get better OOF rendering (aka "bokeh"). You may also want to consider the Canon 50/1.5, which is a Sonnar formula and closer in its rendering to the Nikkor 50/1.4. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share #11 Posted January 6, 2018 Thank you Ecar. That has to be the finest comparative description I’ve read thus far. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted January 15, 2018 Share #12 Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) I totally agree with Ecar. There is no 'magic' attached to the lens, to balance the reliability in handling. Next to the Canon, I have retained the Nikkor F2 LTM, and it has the vintage look even when stopped down a bit. James, I also suggest looking at the new Jupiter 3. I have appreciated the old one very much ; with the new production it might now be well-aligned for a Leica RF. (because of focus shift I almost never it used on my MM but with the OVF It was well used on the M240) See a BW here with that lens: Fragility by Albert K., on Flickr Edited January 15, 2018 by Alberti 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted January 16, 2018 Share #13 Posted January 16, 2018 +1 on the Nikkor 50/2 and Lomography/Zenit's "New Jupiter 3+". Both Sonnars with (very) little focus shift. The former is a real bargain. The latter is actually on of the least focus-shifting Sonnars I have encountered and otherwise a very pleasant surprise compared to the other Lomography lenses I have owned and/or used. It's basically much more predictable than my two "original" J-3s, which can be quite temperamental (each in its own way), while retaining a classic Sonnar character. However: my NJ-3+ is an early 2016 one and arrived with a loose aperture ring - I found that one of the three retaining grub screws was missing and that another was not properly in place. Assembly QC at the Zenit factory may well have improved since then, and my lens was optically spotless and properly adjusted, so that's just a word of caution on potential niggles with this lens. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.liam Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share #14 Posted January 16, 2018 Sounds like the 50mm ƒ/2 is a whole other story Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted January 17, 2018 Share #15 Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) The Canon ltm lenses are truly excellent, both for price and quality. The build is very good, and they look "nice" on black or chrome cameras. I have 35mm f2, 50mm f1.2, f1.4 f1.8, and the 135mm f3.5. All focus well, without any backfocus, on my M8's and M-P240. The 50mm f1.2 has quite a bit of glow fully open, which I'll keep telling myself is character. ... Edited January 17, 2018 by david strachan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted January 17, 2018 Share #16 Posted January 17, 2018 Sounds like the 50mm ƒ/2 is a whole other story Indeed... That's the fun with old glass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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