Guest VVJ Posted January 13, 2018 Share #121 Posted January 13, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) How come I have no problem? menu.jpg fn.jpg No idea... I just did a reset of my camera, started all over again but I still cannot get it to work... I can delete it from the right wheel button but not from the FN button which also does not make any sense IMO... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thighslapper Posted January 13, 2018 Share #122 Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) I'm with Jaap ...... the only proviso being you can't delete anything that is 'active' on the button at the time. The issue with the DEFAULT profile is that all the elements are completely fixed and any changes you make are not saved ...... so it's all a bit academic. if you choose a user profile and then go back to default it has reverted to the initial state. For me that is useless. I've left just 'User Profile' on the FN button for almost all my profiles and usually just a single function on the R button as well ... plus a choice of 2 or 3 things on the favourites list. My profiles alter most of the major elements and just leave a few limited parameters on the other 2 buttons that I would normally expect to want to change. Makes life very simple. Edited January 13, 2018 by thighslapper 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 13, 2018 Share #123 Posted January 13, 2018 No sure if i was clear enough. Choose Default profile and save it as "User6" profile for instance. Now switch the camera off. (This switching off is not necessary at all but the process may be easier to understand for a couple oldies or newbies this way . Just kidding.) Then switch the camera on and choose "User6". Now "User6" is dispayed as "Active" in the User Profile menu. Now try to remove Self Timer from the FN Button menu. If your body works like mine, you'll get the dreaded "active items cannot be deleted" message and you will stay with Self Timer on contrary to what you wanted. Bug. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 13, 2018 Share #124 Posted January 13, 2018 No idea... I just did a reset of my camera, started all over again but I still cannot get it to work... I can delete it from the right wheel button but not from the FN button which also does not make any sense IMO... Same for me. Bug. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 13, 2018 Share #125 Posted January 13, 2018 So deactivate it by choosing a feature that you want to keep in the Fn menu... Easy-Peasy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 13, 2018 Share #126 Posted January 13, 2018 So deactivate it by choosing a feature that you want to keep in the Fn menu... Easy-Peasy. Doesn't work for me. The camera says "Maximum 8 menus items can be deleted" although i don't want to delete anything. Bug again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 13, 2018 Share #127 Posted January 13, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) BTW folks do you have the same 1.0 firmware as mine? Just asking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 13, 2018 Share #128 Posted January 13, 2018 Doesn't work for me. The camera says "Maximum 8 menus items can be deleted" although i don't want to delete anything. Bug again. That is correct; set another wanted item to on. You cannot empty the Fn menu completely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 13, 2018 Share #129 Posted January 13, 2018 That is correct; set another wanted item to on. You cannot empty the Fn menu completely. I did not want to empty anything again. This bug is obvious to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VVJ Posted January 13, 2018 Share #130 Posted January 13, 2018 That is correct; set another wanted item to on. You cannot empty the Fn menu completely. Doesn't work... I picked the first 6 ones you have plus 2 others (including Self Timer). Impossible to delete Self Timer. I am starting to wonder whether there might be different minor versions of the firmware in circulation, even though it all says 1.0... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 13, 2018 Share #131 Posted January 13, 2018 The bug works randomly it seems as i've been fortunate enough to remove self timer from all my profiles already but the trick i've used then (choosing another drive mode than single) doesn't seem to work anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 14, 2018 Share #132 Posted January 14, 2018 I am really puzzled what you guys are attempting to do; it worked flawlessly for me. I set the camera to the default profile, adjusted the items to my preference and saved as an user profile, then renamed. Endof. My drive mode is single, BTW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 14, 2018 Share #133 Posted January 14, 2018 I'm with Jaap ...... the only proviso being you can't delete anything that is 'active' on the button at the time. The issue with the DEFAULT profile is that all the elements are completely fixed and any changes you make are not saved ...... so it's all a bit academic. if you choose a user profile and then go back to default it has reverted to the initial state. For me that is useless. I've left just 'User Profile' on the FN button for almost all my profiles and usually just a single function on the R button as well ... plus a choice of 2 or 3 things on the favourites list. My profiles alter most of the major elements and just leave a few limited parameters on the other 2 buttons that I would normally expect to want to change. Makes life very simple. Actually it is quite useful to have a fixed default profile to provide a starting point if you really mess up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 14, 2018 Share #134 Posted January 14, 2018 OK folks but the topic of this thread is not "i love my CL". Its aim is to report apparent bugs or dysfunctions in order to help Leica fixing or improving the camera if needed. In this state of mind, and after a total reset of the camera to avoid possible variables, i wish to report the following bug that i can reproduce at will: Impossible to disable "Self Timer" in the FN Button menu w/o getting the message "active items cannot be deleted" is spite of this item being totally inactive actually. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 14, 2018 Share #135 Posted January 14, 2018 It is working for me. For example I am in my "Day 18-56" Profile (Profile 1). I have "Profiles" set as the active item on my a quick push of the FN button. I could go into Customise Control/FN Button and turn Self Timer to "off" then backwards to the main menu then into profiles and saved it (as Profile 1 which is Day 18-56) . It has disappeared from the actions available on a long press of the FN button. I then put it back again, as I want self timer in my FN options items. I did not have to mess about with drive mode at all. Are you guys having problems certain you are: 1) Do not have the default profile active but are in another profile which you have set up and saved. It can all be the same as the default profile but needs to be saved as say profile 6. + 2) Do not have self timer showing as active, on a quick push of the FN button. If it is active, you need to press the FN button for a few seconds until its pull down menu appears, scroll down to an action other than Self Timer and select it with a press on the centre button of the four way control. Check that the new item is active by a quick press on the FN button. If either of these is not correct, you will not be able to delete self timer from the actions in Customise Control. Wilson 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 14, 2018 Share #136 Posted January 14, 2018 Agreed, (?*), but I think that it is also established that it is not a general firmware bug -everybody would be having the problem in that case-, but an individual camera fault, or indeed, with all respect, user error along the lines that Wilson suggests. *I see that I am missing your first name. LCT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 14, 2018 Share #137 Posted January 14, 2018 My bug can be reproduced at will after a total reset of the camera to avoid variables referred to by Wilson above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 14, 2018 Share #138 Posted January 14, 2018 Ok. in that case i would advise you to contact Leica Customer Support in Wetzlar. We have at least two cameras misbehaving and three not here. We can assume most cameras do not show this fault, as we certainly would have more reports in the forum. It might also be a good idea to walk into an authorized Leica dealer, preferably the one that sold you the camera, and demonstrate the fault, claim guaranty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted January 14, 2018 Share #139 Posted January 14, 2018 May i suggest that you try to reset your camera the way i did. I bet that you'll get exactly the same issue as mine then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hteasley Posted January 14, 2018 Share #140 Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) Jaap, you know it's pretty counter to the topic, which is "Bugs And Other Issues" to relentlessly defend the camera, and dispute the experience of posters. It's a sort of blind fanboyism that I would not expect from a moderator of a forum. Posters with camera issues are being polite, and expressing their problems with the camera. They are being met mostly with doubt, scorn, and fewer questions and proposals regarding how they might cope with what they're seeing. For my part, I took my CL in to the Leica store today, and showed them the EVF/LCD behavior of my camera. They said, "That's not right," and swapped me out for a new one. That's the sort of customer service I love about Leica. You're a manager of this forum store. Edited January 14, 2018 by hteasley Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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