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Giving up full frame great quality images that you can crop for a smaller sensor but ability to use all Leica lenses?

 

 

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If I had to choose one I'd rather have a CL than a Q but that isn't a direct answer to the question. Leaving aside the digitalness of both cameras, the Q is too large for my taste.

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I have a new Q still unboxed with exactly the same question as the OP

  I haven't read much on the CL yet but now have finished work so I can concentrate more now on the new kid on the block.

 

I was supposed to be at Mayfair today for the launch, but my feeling was I wanted the Q and bought that last week..  Hope it remains that way after reading up tonight and I don't have to change ! 

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Well, I didn't buy the Q but I probably will buy the CL...

But then it is a totally different camera. I would never use it with an AF 28 mm equivalent.

 

True ..... but I am thinking cropping the 28mm FF sensor to, say, 35mm focal length vs CL with the new 24mm Elmar ???  At the longer focal lengths, say using a 35 or 50 on the CL with the sensor crop factor how much depth of field am I loosing vs the Q? Which, BTW, I have and love .... 

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Well, I didn't buy the Q but I probably will buy the CL...

But then it is a totally different camera. I would never use it with an AF 28 mm equivalent.

 

Hello jaapv...

 

Please say why not... This is not a challenge... I'm just curious ... The new 18mm (effective 27mm) lens looks like an attractive proposition.

 

Perhaps I misunderstood your statement.

 

John

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My Q is perfect for my usage... I use the marvelous Summilux DoF to my advantage in compositions and the FF image quality is superb.

Smaller size is important as is a great EVF -- rather than rangefinder (tired old eyes).  This eliminates the M family.

 

A FF CL or "QL" would be nirvana...  

I'll have to try a CL next to my Q and do side-by-side analysis in Lightroom Classic.

Who knows, I may have to go back to APS-c sensors unless I decide to haul a huge SL system.

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No .....the Q is a classic and too good to dump ....... not for a few years anyway ......

 

Looks like it will be yet another camera to play with and decide which .... if any .... of  my stock are being retired...... after a thorough road test.....

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Hello jaapv...

 

Please say why not... This is not a challenge... I'm just curious ... The new 18mm (effective 27mm) lens looks like an attractive proposition.

 

Perhaps I misunderstood your statement.

 

John

For one thing, I prefer 24-35, and I dislike AF on wideangle lenses.

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The FF  Q looks like a bargain compared to the CL with its pretty stock standard (28mm) 18mm

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I suppose the main question is whether one islooking for a camera with a range of lenses - a system camera - or a fixed lens travel camera. For me the Q offers the benefits of a very croppable FF sensor and the shallow DoF obtainable with a f/1.7 lens on a FF sensor, which is not going to be be avilable on an APS-C sensor and f/2.8 18mm lens. For me the CL offers what my old XPro2 gave (plus Leica quality and that intangible extra) and which I gave up for the Q.

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I do not have a Q. But I am a FF Sensor shooter. That said, I would not trade Q for CL. With pricy body and lens, I do not know if CL will have a hit for Leica.

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if the Q were my only camera... I would not. The only smallish lenses that gives CL the size advantage over Q are the new 18 and 23. And the Q is an incredible camera (although I traded it in for M10)

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I probably will.  I own the SL, Q and TL2 and have ordered the CL.  The Q is not getting much use anymore and that probably will not improve after getting the CL.

 

And it seems that I will be able to keep my 3 spare Q batteries! 

 

If I really like the CL the TL2 will be at risk as well, and perhaps the SL as well, although I would really miss the OIS...

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I understand the point about DOF, but you are talking about an 18mm lens on the CL.....Look at it this way, and perhaps I am totally wrong, but I take shot with my Q and crop it to a 50mm view, aren't the megapixels better if I shot the CL with a 35mm summicron? It is really only from 28mm or maybe 35mm and lower, that the Q is better because then you are using the full sensor? I think the game changer here is that I can put an M or R lens on the CL and shoot a longer focal length rather than crop the Q. Don't get me wrong, the cropped Q is GREAT!!!!!! I am presupposing that the CL sensor, etc is equally great. IF not, then the argument is moot.... anyway just a thought.

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