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What is the future of the X line?


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#1 Archiver

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Posted 21 October 2017 - 02:54

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Leica seem to be devoting more attention to the development of the M, SL and TL camera systems, and have paid less and less attention to the X line.  The original X1 became the X2 and then X-E.  The Vario has been discontinued and Leica stated that it won't be getting a new model.  The X 113 doesn't seem to be faring much better with no upgrade in sight and no firmware upgrades, either.

 

Is there any sign of the X line developing further, or will Leica maintain the remaining models and then quietly drop them from production?  This would be quite a shame as I think large sensor fixed lens cameras are useful and have a lot of potential.


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Posted 21 October 2017 - 06:35

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 05:01

I think the X line is dead, specially if there is a TL eith evf in the horizon.
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Posted 22 October 2017 - 06:06

I think the customer reaction to the rather inept introduction of the X-Vario ended a floundering line. If it had been accepted for the rather brilliant camera it was, we would have seen further development.
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Posted 22 October 2017 - 06:31

I am still looking for that digital 50mm view camera with Barnack dimensions ; I though the X would evolve into it - but it seems not.

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 16:50

The future of the X is in your hands. Hang on to it! It will become a classic. I regret selling my X1 already.

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 20:45

Such a shame if the X line is dead. I enjoyed my X1 and continue to use a 113 despite having brought into the TL system. Sometimes there is nothing like the freedom a fixed lens camera brings. Shame there was never a 50mm equivalent.

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Posted 08 November 2017 - 14:49

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Posted 08 November 2017 - 15:14

It would be a shame if it died, I'm looking at the X as a possible replacement for my 109.


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Posted 08 November 2017 - 15:34

The future of the X is in your hands. Hang on to it! It will become a classic. I regret selling my X1 already.

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Posted 08 November 2017 - 16:20

I think the customer reaction to the rather inept introduction of the X-Vario ended a floundering line. If it had been accepted for the rather brilliant camera it was, we would have seen further development.

 

Well, I accepted the X-Vario (a mint used one, admittedly) as a modern version of my other Leica, a Digilux 2. Both cover my ideal focal length range and have the advantage of each being an all-in-one unit, so no lens changing. For what I want, perfect - I can concentrate on the images.



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Posted 08 November 2017 - 19:37

I think the X line is dead, specially if there is a TL eith evf in the horizon.

If some leaks realized you might be wrong:

https://www.l-camera...line/?p=3391637

If one thinks about it, X+TL+SL-viewfinder makes much more sense than seeing the bodies seperately.

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 07:35

The 4 X's have fixed lens.

 

A TL with an integrated viewfinder is coming, so an X also with viewfinder, same sensor, and same TL mount makes little sense, they would be practically the same camera. Probably those pictures are from the new TL, not an X.



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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:21

The 4 X's have fixed lens.

 

A TL with an integrated viewfinder is coming, so an X also with viewfinder, same sensor, and same TL mount makes little sense, they would be practically the same camera. Probably those pictures are from the new TL, not an X.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 18:42

I still get a lot of use from my X2, it's the one that goes in my work backpack for a trip when there's not enough room for a M, and I get clean12x18 prints from the files it generates. B&H just got a shipment of batts for it, so I bought one (#3) as those are the components that tend to become scarce first, once support for the camera ends.



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Posted 17 November 2017 - 22:59

My favorite digital cameras are the X2 and X Vario, and I use them far more than my film cameras. For me, a 50mm (equivalent) X would have been ideal for a fixed focal length. Of course, the X Variio performs perfectly at 50mm (within its limitations), but something a bit faster at 50mm would be extremely useful.



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Posted Yesterday, 21:56

I really liked the x1 and x2 and still own the x2. The next generation was (IMO) allready to big and lost the original idea for a compact camera with a large sensor.

M y guess is that the X-Line is given up for the TL line.

I think Canon shows with the G1xIII that it is still possible to build a really compact camera with a large sensor (and even with a small integrated EVF).

I do like the TL-system, but it does not offer the compactness of a X1/x2.




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