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Leica M10 support on Capture One Pro 10.2

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#1 Overgaard

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 13:11

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The new Capture One Pro 10.2 just released and has support Leica M10, Leica M-P and Leica M Monochrom as well as a number of Leica M lenses.

 

You can get a free 30 day trial download here:

 

Capture One Pro 10.2 free download

 

 

Also there is profiles for these lenses now:

Leica Elmar-M 24mm f/3.8 ASPH

Leica Summilux-M 21mm f1.4 ASPH

Leica Summilux-M 24mm f/1.4 ASPH

Leica Super-Elmar-M 18mm f3.8 ASPH

Leica Super-Elmar-M 21mm f/3.4 ASPH

Leica Tri-Elmar-M 16-18-21mm f/4 ASPH

 


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 13:16

Leica Monochrom or M246? They have supported the MM1 for a long time but have not acknowledged the M246.

It's nice to have support for more than just the 50 Summicron, so that's good.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 13:33

Nice timing, my M10 is on its way right now :)
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 13:50

Ironically I've just completed their on line survey and stated that updating its Leica lens profiles is way overdue. Glad they listened!

Now, if only they'd include the 35 and 50 'lux....... these are the main lenses I use.
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#5 Steve Ash

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 14:44

The M10 support is listed as preliminary. Does anybody know why?


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 14:48

Well the 10.2 document say they support Leica M Monochrome and the M-Monochrom. What that means is anybody's guess.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 15:36

Leica Monochrom or M246? They have supported the MM1 for a long time but have not acknowledged the M246.

It's nice to have support for more than just the 50 Summicron, so that's good.

 

 

I'll import some M246, M9 and other files later today and see what it supports with what. As far as I know, the M9/CCD M Monochrom was supported since long ago, but I haven't tested ever in C1.


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 19:56

Well the Monochrom (246) is supported now, when I imported an image it automatically got an profile named 'Leica M Monochrome neutral' assigned. I did not see much difference between it and the DNG Profile but it was only one image.

 

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 20:27

The new Capture One Pro 10.2 just released and has support Leica M10, Leica M-P and Leica M Monochrom as well as a number of Leica M lenses.
 
You can get a free 30 day trial download here:
 
Capture One Pro 10.2 free download
 
 
Also there is profiles for these lenses now:
Leica Elmar-M 24mm f/3.8 ASPH
Leica Summilux-M 21mm f1.4 ASPH
Leica Summilux-M 24mm f/1.4 ASPH
Leica Super-Elmar-M 18mm f3.8 ASPH
Leica Super-Elmar-M 21mm f/3.4 ASPH
Leica Tri-Elmar-M 16-18-21mm f/4 ASPH


It seems the M10 profile is an exact copy of the M240 V2 profile.

#10 UliWer

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 21:15

Yes, you are right. I tried both with a file from the M10 and can see no differences. Information for the exported jpgs give exactly the same size...



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 18:05

The new Capture One Pro 10.2 just released and has support Leica M10, Leica M-P and Leica M Monochrom as well as a number of Leica M lenses.
 
You can get a free 30 day trial download here:
 
Capture One Pro 10.2 free download
 
 
Also there is profiles for these lenses now:
Leica Elmar-M 24mm f/3.8 ASPH
Leica Summilux-M 21mm f1.4 ASPH
Leica Summilux-M 24mm f/1.4 ASPH
Leica Super-Elmar-M 18mm f3.8 ASPH
Leica Super-Elmar-M 21mm f/3.4 ASPH
Leica Tri-Elmar-M 16-18-21mm f/4 ASPH

Thorsten are you using C1 now?

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 19:39

One improvement I've found with the new version is that they have corrected a white balance problem involving nighttime sodium lighted scenes. I had contacted C1 support a few months ago and sent them a sample problem image.  These type images now work fine in this new version.



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 20:07

C1 has processed M10 files as long as there have been M10s, but the support was unofficial and unacknowledged.  I have been using it all along, and have been happy with it  I expect the changes to make this official support will be small.

 

I loaded up some files with the 21/3.4 and the 21/1.4 lenses, to see what corrections the lens profiles offered.  There is something for Chromatic aberration, but no distortion corrections.  (Because there is essentially no distortion?)  It will take longer to see if there are color profile differences.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 22:17

Is anyone else having this problem with 10.2 and M10 files:  When I open my previous catalog from 10.1 which has M10 files that were processed using dng neutral and with "Include existing adjustments" selected upon import - the 10.2 program starts reprocessing all the M10 files and leaving them with washed out color. That is - it seems to redefine what dng neutral looks like. If I go in by hand and change the ICC profile to M10 the color returns. Or if I import new M10 files using the M10 ICC all is fine. But this will mean that I have to go into the thousands of M10 shots and change their ICC profile. 



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 22:41

Yes, the desaturation when you use the "DNG neutral" profile is obvious. Besides the fact that they use one identical profile under the names of "M240 generic v. 2" and "M10 generic" it is the second cause to leave C 1 alone - which I regret.

Did anybody try if the strong desaturation in thr DNG neutral profile happens as well when you use files from other cameras? Or is it an issue only for M10 files?

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Posted 15 September 2017 - 16:04

I'm coming from a M8 and M-E and have had an M10 for about a week.

 

I've always loved the way C1 has dealt with the older leicas but I'm really struggling in certain circumstances with the M10.  I'm not sure if it's just me getting used to it's look, the CMOS sensor approach or C1.  But I am finding in scenes with the main subject in low contrast with dappled hot highlights in BG, it's doing some strange non-linear things in highlights.  In very near whites there's a kind of impurity or almost banding in clipping that tends to cyan / pinkish.  It's only happened in a few scenes and I find opening those files in another application like phocus seems to do a better job of dealing with those images and doesn't pollute the highlights in the same way.  

 

It feels like what happens in a low bit depth image.  It's not all shooting, but in a few shots out of hundreds.  I was hoping that this version of C1 would deal with this, but it seems it's a cursory acknowledgement of the M10.  I'm looking forward to re-processing those images when I get a chance.

 

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