autograph Posted September 4, 2017 Share #1 Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Dear friends, I'm in dilemma about getting a 50mm lens for my M Typ 240. I have 35mm Zeiss Distagon, 75mm Apo summicron. And, I can buy following lenses for the same price (1000 dollars) for each. -Version 2, 50mm Summilux, clean and works perfectly. -Rigid 50mm Summicron, clean and works perfectly. -C Sonnar 50mm Zeiss, almost unused or Nokton 50mm 1.5 Voigtlander last M version, for 540 dollars, almost unused Thanks for replies. Edited September 4, 2017 by autograph Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 4, 2017 Posted September 4, 2017 Hi autograph, Take a look here Which following 50mm lens would you pick? V2 lux, rigid cron, c-sonnar, Nokton 1.5.. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
riswanc Posted September 4, 2017 Share #2 Posted September 4, 2017 Version 2, 50 lux looks good Instagram @jakontil Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted September 4, 2017 Share #3 Posted September 4, 2017 Version 2, 50 mm Summilux, clean and works perfectly. So that's the last pre-asph version, right? I think I'd go for that one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autograph Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share #4 Posted September 4, 2017 So that's the last pre-asph version, right? I think I'd go for that one. No, it is 1962 model... Version 2. http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/50mm-f14.htm 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rus Posted September 4, 2017 Share #5 Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) This is perhaps just me, but what I've always found is that no matter which lens I go for initially, I sooner or later become curious about, and am itching to try out, other similar options out there. The differences between the choices are mainly the length of time I'd be able to resist this urge Edited September 4, 2017 by Rus Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted September 4, 2017 Share #6 Posted September 4, 2017 I would go for Summilux (even if I own three of different periods already). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted September 4, 2017 Share #7 Posted September 4, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'd go with the '62 Summilux. I have the v1 Summilux which shares the same great mount, and even the v1 gives nice results. I also have the Rigid (and D.R.), and v. 3 & 5 Summicrons, and the Nokton. Of these I use the v3&5 Summicrons the most. The rigid is lower contrast, and I think the v2 Summilux would be more pleasing. The Nokton can be good, but I went through 3 of them and had the last adjusted by DAG to make it right, so there can be a lot of sample variation. The focus ring is uncomfortable to me - I much prefer the older LTM version, and tend to get better images from it as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted September 4, 2017 Share #8 Posted September 4, 2017 No, it is 1962 model ... version 2. http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/50mm-f14.htm Why "no"!? It is the last pre-asph version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autograph Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share #9 Posted September 4, 2017 Why "no"!? It is the last pre-asph version. I mean it is not the version 3 (last non-aspherical summilux). Last pre-asph summilux (ver 3) was produced between 1992-2004. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autograph Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share #10 Posted September 4, 2017 This is perhaps just me, but what I've always found is that no matter which lens I go for initially, I sooner or later become curious about, and am itching to try out, other similar options out there. The differences between the choices are mainly the length of time I'd be able to resist this urge like me I would go for Summilux (even if I own three of different periods already). Thanks. I'd go with the '62 Summilux. I have the v1 Summilux which shares the same great mount, and even the v1 gives nice results. I also have the Rigid (and D.R.), and v. 3 & 5 Summicrons, and the Nokton. Of these I use the v3&5 Summicrons the most. The rigid is lower contrast, and I think the v2 Summilux would be more pleasing. The Nokton can be good, but I went through 3 of them and had the last adjusted by DAG to make it right, so there can be a lot of sample variation. The focus ring is uncomfortable to me - I much prefer the older LTM version, and tend to get better images from it as well. Thanks for your reply, good to read your experience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted September 4, 2017 Share #11 Posted September 4, 2017 That Nokton should not be overlooked. Excellent lens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted September 4, 2017 Share #12 Posted September 4, 2017 I mean it is not the version 3 (last non-aspherical summilux). Last pre-asph summilux (ver 3) was produced between 1992-2004. So far, I am aware of only two versions. The first was produced for only one or two years in the early '60s, and then quickly got superseded by the second, significantly improved version which was produced for more than 40 years. However, this refers to optics only. According to Ken Rockwell, the so-called 'third version' from 1992 has just a re-styled barrel (46 mm filter size, 0.7 m minimum focus distance) but the very same optics as the 1961 version (possibly with improved coatings). Umm ... I guess the improved minimum focusing distance of 0.7 m (formerly 1 m) makes enough of a difference from a user's point of view to consider the 1992 update as a version of its own even though the optics haven't changed. Anyway—given the choices in your entry post, I'd go for the Summilux. However, I'm afraid that sooner or later I might get fed up with the longish minimum focusing distance of 1 m. Being able to focus down to 0.7 m does make surprisingly big a difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted September 4, 2017 Share #13 Posted September 4, 2017 Tough choice. Personally I'd go for the Rigid Summicron. Until about 3 years ago I also owned the Summilux, and it was a great lens, but bigger and heavier than I was used to, and I found that I didn't use it very often. These days I'm using the LTM Nokton, as I came across a really good deal on one, especially since I'm using my LTM bodies more than my M2. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted September 4, 2017 Share #14 Posted September 4, 2017 I had Nokton briefly. Purple fringing on digital wide open. I had Rigid it is fine lens, just neutral, with Leica rendering in micro-details. I don't think it should cost 1K$ even now. I have Jupiter-3 instead of Sonnar, which is too overpriced for itts limitations. Lux V2 for 1k$ is hard to find. If I had money, I'll get it right away, at least to learn about and sell at easy above purchased price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted September 4, 2017 Share #15 Posted September 4, 2017 Price of GAS, the eternal dilemma. Every lens serves a useful purpose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob L Posted September 4, 2017 Share #16 Posted September 4, 2017 The Nokton is a great lens and matches your others more closely in rendering if that maters to you Some hate the focus ring though. 49mm filters match too. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted September 4, 2017 Share #17 Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) I had Rigid it is fine lens, just neutral, with Leica rendering in micro-details. I don't think it should cost 1K$ even now. (...) Lux V2 for 1k$ is hard to find. If I had money, I'll get it right away, at least to learn about and sell at easy above purchased price. +1, both lenses are classics with their own different qualities / rendering. Edited September 4, 2017 by JMF Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted September 5, 2017 Share #18 Posted September 5, 2017 Concerning GAS you will end up buying all ;-) At 1k $ I'd opt for the Lux as the Price is good and building is classical. The Nokton is an alternative if you Need the Speed, Sonnar-C renders different and Shows Focus-shift you have to handle. The Cron is also classic lens, compact and good for most situations, that would be me other preferred choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwj Posted September 5, 2017 Share #19 Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) Has anyone suggested the lux yet? Edited September 5, 2017 by michaelwj Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 5, 2017 Share #20 Posted September 5, 2017 I have both v2 and v3 Summilux 50/1.4. The latter is indeed a different version but aside from its 0.7m focus distance and built-in hood, i hardly see obvious IQ differences, just a bit less vignetting and perhaps a bit less flare and/or more contrast with v3. I prefer the Sonnar 50/1.5 personally but only on TTL cameras because it suffers from focus shift so i would not advise it for use on M cameras, in RF mode at least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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