win-win Posted August 26, 2017 Share #1 Posted August 26, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello, please help me to understand if my two days old M10 is defective. When I shoot inside pictures look like this one. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! DNG is here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bw6EzkU8v923LTBPbm5faUhlRkk It is driving me crazy. Thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! DNG is here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bw6EzkU8v923LTBPbm5faUhlRkk It is driving me crazy. Thank you ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/276145-is-this-normal-m10-all-is-yellow/?do=findComment&comment=3345382'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 26, 2017 Posted August 26, 2017 Hi win-win, Take a look here Is this normal? (M10 all is yellow). I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
riswanc Posted August 26, 2017 Share #2 Posted August 26, 2017 Hi I suspect the neon really plays a part in awb Shooting outdoor is normal i suspect? May try different kind of lights indoor Instagram @jakontil Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
win-win Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share #3 Posted August 26, 2017 Yes shooting outdoor is normal, but my Q don't produce same pictures on that conditions..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted August 26, 2017 Share #4 Posted August 26, 2017 Get used to it or shoot a grey card. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
win-win Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share #5 Posted August 26, 2017 Hi I suspect the neon really plays a part in awb Shooting outdoor is normal i suspect? Yes shooting outdoor is normal, but my Q don't produce same pictures on that conditions..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
win-win Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share #6 Posted August 26, 2017 Get used to it or shoot a grey card. Grey card white balance does not help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted August 26, 2017 Share #7 Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Grey card white balance does not help. Then to be honest, you are most likely doing it wrong. As soon as I open the .DNG in Photoshop, it opens in Adobe Camera Raw... I have NOT touched anything. This is how the default preview looks like, so I think you're doing something wrong.: http://jip.li/nk/1asb8 Edited August 26, 2017 by jip 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted August 26, 2017 Share #8 Posted August 26, 2017 What are you opening the DNG in? Lightroom? Photoshop? Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted August 26, 2017 Share #9 Posted August 26, 2017 jip's sceenshot shows Photoshop Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
win-win Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share #10 Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) Then to be honest, you are most likely doing it wrong. As soon as I open the .DNG in Photoshop, it opens in Adobe Camera Raw... I have NOT touched anything. This is how the default preview looks like, so I think you're doing something wrong. I appreciate your help, thank you. I use a Lightroom with Leica M10 color profile as by default and it's all yellow. Edited August 26, 2017 by win-win Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 26, 2017 Share #11 Posted August 26, 2017 Then to be honest, you are most likely doing it wrong. As soon as I open the .DNG in Photoshop, it opens in Adobe Camera Raw... I have NOT touched anything. This is how the default preview looks like, so I think you're doing something wrong.: http://jip.li/nk/1asb8 That is not the way it should look like; the export setting should be 16-bits Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted August 26, 2017 Share #12 Posted August 26, 2017 That is not the way it should look like; the export setting should be 16-bits I know I just opened it and this was what photoshop did by default (8-bit is wrong yes) But colour wise it's fine and I didn't touch anything, so I'm wondering what Win-Win is doing wrong in Lightroom or Photoshop to get that weird yellow colour on their image. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
win-win Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share #13 Posted August 26, 2017 Lightroom all by default, profile Leica M10 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/276145-is-this-normal-m10-all-is-yellow/?do=findComment&comment=3345416'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 26, 2017 Share #14 Posted August 26, 2017 The light is weird; 2300 K etc. Just set a proper colour balance. Click on the handle of the cupboard. Even better to use the grey card setting instead of AWB under such light. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Yes, Jip, I know...colourspace... Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Yes, Jip, I know...colourspace... ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/276145-is-this-normal-m10-all-is-yellow/?do=findComment&comment=3345420'>More sharing options...
Al_OOF Posted August 26, 2017 Share #15 Posted August 26, 2017 Try Adobe profile. I had almost the same result with some photos taken indoor. On the camera screen they were very yellow (I guess the M10 convert with its profile) but open in Lightroom with Adobe profiles all was much better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
riswanc Posted August 26, 2017 Share #16 Posted August 26, 2017 I m pretty sure this is all to blame on the neon lights I had experienced this, some cheaps neon lights give weird colours, move next room with different neon, may be newer or better, results differ too Instagram @jakontil Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
win-win Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share #17 Posted August 26, 2017 Ok, thank you for your help, i never had a weird colours in this room with my Q..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_OOF Posted August 26, 2017 Share #18 Posted August 26, 2017 It is true that there are lights difficult to be interpreted but, after reading in the reviews about the M10's excellent performance in artificial lights, I can only see that in the same situation I reported my M9 did better. Pheraps another little defect only in few cameras ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 26, 2017 Share #19 Posted August 26, 2017 I hardly see light or WB problems here. Even Apple's Preview (pic) does much better. The camera is not faulty IMO so culprits can only be Lightroom and/or the user. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/276145-is-this-normal-m10-all-is-yellow/?do=findComment&comment=3345442'>More sharing options...
Peter H Posted August 26, 2017 Share #20 Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) I very occasionally get similarly over-yellow photos under artificial light, at default settings, AWB and M10 profile, which are fine in the Adobe profile. So easy to manage (and rare) that I don't see it as a problem. I don't think it's a fault in the camera either, it's just the way the M10 profile has been created, which gives nicer results in most cases compared with the standard Adobe profile, ( this is probably subjective as well as context-dependant) but once in a while I find Adobe is the better choice if you don't want to adjust WB yourself, even though it couldn't be easier to do as Jaap says. I just don't see it as an issue. Edited August 26, 2017 by Peter H 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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