stephan_w Posted August 2, 2017 Share #21 Posted August 2, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Neil I make mainly nude photos with the S2 since many years now, and I shoot mainly wide open as the S2 needs much light. I cannot complain about the single focus point, its very accurate even after reframing. Nevertheless, some lenses are better than others, so I shoot mainly with the 100 and 180 and avoid the 35 and 70. But I agree that with the arriving of the SL, this is akward and the S doesn't get much work recently. It's so much more conveniant to use the zoom (24-90) which has as a plus IS, which really helps in low light Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted August 2, 2017 Share #22 Posted August 2, 2017 Hi Neil I make mainly nude photos with the S2 since many years now, and I shoot mainly wide open as the S2 needs much light. I cannot complain about the single focus point, its very accurate even after reframing. Nevertheless, some lenses are better than others, so I shoot mainly with the 100 and 180 and avoid the 35 and 70. But I agree that with the arriving of the SL, this is akward and the S doesn't get much work recently. It's so much more conveniant to use the zoom (24-90) which has as a plus IS, which really helps in low light Hi Stephan I was actually surprised how some of my recent shots turned out especially the ones in the barn where the light was not good. The next time I do a model shoot I will defiantly use the SL and compare the hit rate. Below is a link to the pictures that I am talking about...............be carful they contain nudity https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/275299-meet-rani-contains-nudity/ Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted August 2, 2017 Share #23 Posted August 2, 2017 Well, I think it was fact that some time ago there were only medium format sensors with one focus point available. I hope we will see it in the next S body,. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted August 2, 2017 Share #24 Posted August 2, 2017 If it's not in the next S body after Leica have demonstrated their capabilities in the SL and Q, then the S is a dead system and Fuji will capture the lions share of the MF market. End of story. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertknappmd Posted August 16, 2017 Share #25 Posted August 16, 2017 Hopefully the 008 will incorporate this feature! Albert Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted August 17, 2017 Share #26 Posted August 17, 2017 Hopefully the 008 will incorporate this feature! Albert I still hope they won't drop the optical viewfinder. If they introduce a thousand of focus points, to let you choose a point on the sensor by the way of joystick, it's fine, the people will be happy. For me the beautiful , big and crystal clean optical S viewfinder is the best feature and one and lonely focus pont let me work as I am used to be working for many years. If they build an EVIL camera and it will have the electronic viewfinder, We will be expecting a new lines of lenses , adapted to Contrast focusing. For me if means I will proclaim my S2-Р to be a new classics and feel well to work with it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted August 17, 2017 Share #27 Posted August 17, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) For me the S2 at the moment is mainly an unexpected, interesting adventure. Any new S would only make me think about potentially upgrading at some point to the James Bond edition, as prices are expected to come down. For my personal stuff I do not really need the focus point to be moveable. I have cameras which can do this and others which cannot. Both work for me. If Leica comes out with an EVF version of the S, I think they have to first and foremost make sure, that the existing lenses remain usable with the same feature set and speed. Only contrast detection AF is not an option, in my eyes, as it would be far too slow. And, of course, the Contax adapter needs to continue to work the same way as before 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted August 18, 2017 Share #28 Posted August 18, 2017 I don't follow why the existing lenses would not work perfectly well with a hypothetical new S body with EVF.I can't imagine that it would make sense to create a whole new lens line either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McMaster Posted August 22, 2017 Share #29 Posted August 22, 2017 They would likely be very front heavy, by the time you add a tube (for the lack of mirror) and a light EVF body... john Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted August 22, 2017 Share #30 Posted August 22, 2017 They would likely be very front heavy, by the time you add a tube (for the lack of mirror) and a light EVF body... john You don't get much bigger than the SL 90-280 on the not-so-light EVF-based SL, which is still a well balanced combo. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted August 22, 2017 Share #31 Posted August 22, 2017 They would likely be very front heavy, by the time you add a tube (for the lack of mirror) and a light EVF body... john Hi John. Do you think that a hypothetical new S body with and EVF (only) would be a lighter and smaller form body the way Hasselblad chose? It's an interesting thought, certainly. My speculation is that it might be more like the SL approach. Actually if I use the SL with the 24-90 over half a day for example, It doesn't feel lighter/smaller for me in practice than the S. I think that the S is better balanced /shaped, while the controls and menu are improved in the SL. Part of that handling perception comes from the mass of that zoom out front I guess. Personally I could not see that producing a new range of lenses would be viable both from production practicalities and potential market size. You never know with Leica though. Definitely a track record of going their own way. I would probably be tempted in any event! For my sub set of the already tiny niche I would rather see some more lenses in the existing range. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted August 27, 2017 Share #32 Posted August 27, 2017 You can already put S lenses on the SL to check their balance and AF capabilities on a mirrorless body. Both AF and balance are comparable to how they focus on the S007. So making an S body with the SL EVF and focus system would work with the current lenses just fine. There's no need for radical redesign of the body either. Maybe just make the grip a bit deeper and a thumb rest. Bigger lenses like a bigger body for handling. The S body isn't too big and removing the mirror/pentaprism would shave off a couple of hundred grams. No need for clunky adaptors that way. Use the SL EVF and maybe use the extra space in the S body for increased magnification for an even larger view. It 'aint going to be a sports camera. But focus will be just fine for mini MF use. And CDAF has the advantage of being extremely accurate with no need for AF adjustments. And they need a ground up redesign of that shitty zoom. Gordon Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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