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Hey. My 240 got a bit wet on the weekend and wouldn't turn on. It's dried off now and turns on but isn't operating correctly... Shutter speeds sound accurate, but the lcd is non responsive, and I am just getting "5o" (not 50) appearing in the vf.

 

Anyone familiar or know what this could mean?

 

I appreciate anyone posting who might know.

 

Thanks,

Richard

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Wet where? You can use the camera in the rain but if you opened it (base plate, lens off, hot shoe shield removed) there might get be problems.

 

Well here is the issue. I've taken it out inthe rain many times without any issues (other than the lens fogging up for a while), but yesterday I was caught out in the rain for longer than expected, and perhaps was too casual with looking after the camera. 

 

It wouldn't turn on for some reason / was acting weird / the lcd wasn't working so I thought it had maybe frozen (which it hasn't done since updating the FW), so went to remove the battery. Found the bottom compartment actually had water in it :(. Even though there is a rubber seal around this area? I am a bit perplexed. I have left it drying out for over a day and with silica packs inside, but this error persists.

 

Thank you both for your suggestion. I'll try another card.

 

Thankfully I didn't really have much on the card that wasn't saved, and what was lost, wasn't particularly important (just casual snaps). But I did have it with me for a friends birthday and returned without any images, which was pretty disappointing. 

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Maybe your base plate "O ring" seal has some dirt on it.

Thing is is it's impeccable. I'm the only owner and always a half cover on the camera, and generally only take the plate off when at home to get the card out or charge the battery. It's had minimal use too... Not sure how it worked it's way in really...

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So I am now getting an "Sd" error sign. Perhaps this was related to condensation and fogging, as to why the 'd' didn't render fully, who knows...

 

But have tried a different SD card and it is still just producing the "Sd" error sign... And the LCD is not responding at all still...

 

Not looking good...

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Call Leica CS in Wetzlar and ask for a pickup label +4964412080189. Alternately get your camera into Leica Mayfair ASAP. Take out the battery and do NOT reinsert it. Inform your Insurance company.

Fingers crossed that it can be salvaged. Water inside an M camera is not a good omen.

 

In general, if a  camera malfunctions from water ingress, take out the battery immediately, dry it out by a hair dryer and Silicagel, or dry rice at a pinch, and send it in as soon as possible.

The problem is that the light metal from the bodyshell will cause electrolytic corrosion with the copper and solder of the electronic parts. This is often irreversible and terminal.

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The problem is that Leica does not specify the IP code for their cameras. The M 240 is weathersealed, but in what class? Possibly IP3 or IP4, which means that it will resist spray from various angles, but not from below, and it is not sealed against immersion. So standing it in a puddle will mean that water can get in.

The S, for instance, is supposed to be able to survive mild immersion, which would give it a code of IP7.

 

If the IP code were specified, users would be able to assess whether the camera is up to the circumstances. Now it is a grey area.

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Leica has always been less than forthcoming about the weather resistance of its equipment. The exception is the XU, of course, and also the SL; I can't remember if it has an IP rating, but the descriptive terminology they use ("virtually impossible for dust, moisture, or water to get inside") gives me comfort that they would deal with it if water did get in. I've had the SL + SL zoom out in heavy rain without any problem.

 

I certainly don't trust the M240 to the same extent. The marketing blurb says "Specially designed rubber seals protect the camera body against splashes, moisture, dust and bad weather conditions," - to me this says : take it out in the rain at your risk.

 

The M10 blurb says "Perfectly equipped to withstand light showers, dust & Co.", which is not up  the SL assurances. I would be nervous about using it in rain.

 

With the M system, whatever the body spec, the mount has no seals at all.

 

Testing to a recognised standard is expensive, of course, but I wish Leica would do so.

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Yes, and they cooperated in an article in LFI on the S when it came out, but that is about it.

As I said, if they made a clear statement on the rating of their equipment, users would be less nervous about using it in adverse conditions (and more careful when going beyond the parameters) and Leica would be in a better position to judge guaranty claims.

I cannot imagine that Leica does not test its products.

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Leica has always been less than forthcoming about the weather resistance of its equipment. The exception is the XU, of course, and also the SL; I can't remember if it has an IP rating, but the descriptive terminology they use ("virtually impossible for dust, moisture, or water to get inside") gives me comfort that they would deal with it if water did get in. I've had the SL + SL zoom out in heavy rain without any problem.

 

I certainly don't trust the M240 to the same extent. The marketing blurb says "Specially designed rubber seals protect the camera body against splashes, moisture, dust and bad weather conditions," - to me this says : take it out in the rain at your risk.

 

The M10 blurb says "Perfectly equipped to withstand light showers, dust & Co.", which is not up the SL assurances. I would be nervous about using it in rain.

 

With the M system, whatever the body spec, the mount has no seals at all.

 

Testing to a recognised standard is expensive, of course, but I wish Leica would do so.

It is expensive and they do test it.

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