BCMielke Posted July 20, 2017 Share #101 Posted July 20, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wow! This is quite a thread. I just spent some time scrolling through all of the messages. I got my TL2 last week and used it until it died. It's on it's way back to Leica and I will be getting a refund. I look forward to when it comes back after it is fixed and of course when I buy it again. For me it's a camera it's not life and death. I'm not looking at this problem as a failure of epic proportions as some seem to be putting on Leica. All camera companies have had issues in the past. I'm disappointed because I was very excited about the camera and enjoyed the time I had with. It's gone for now. I can still take photos with something else. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Samir Jahjah Posted July 20, 2017 Share #102 Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) ... And did you have any problems Samir? John Yes. It stopped working. Edited July 20, 2017 by Samir Jahjah Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blimey Posted July 20, 2017 Share #103 Posted July 20, 2017 Wow! This is quite a thread. I just spent some time scrolling through all of the messages. I got my TL2 last week and used it until it died. It's on it's way back to Leica and I will be getting a refund. I look forward to when it comes back after it is fixed and of course when I buy it again. For me it's a camera it's not life and death. I'm not looking at this problem as a failure of epic proportions as some seem to be putting on Leica. All camera companies have had issues in the past. I'm disappointed because I was very excited about the camera and enjoyed the time I had with. It's gone for now. I can still take photos with something else. Can you confirm if you were using Visioflex? I received mine a couple of hours ago and been shooting stuff indoor. So far so good. I dont have a Visioflex tho so I think I should be good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCMielke Posted July 20, 2017 Share #104 Posted July 20, 2017 Can you confirm if you were using Visioflex? I received mine a couple of hours ago and been shooting stuff indoor. So far so good. I dont have a Visioflex tho so I think I should be good. Yes I was using the Visoflex most of the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apoqualia Posted July 20, 2017 Share #105 Posted July 20, 2017 1) You have NO idea how actually large or small the pool was. Are you directly involved, or did Leica call you and give you a scoop? "Hey, pally, youse knows we has only like three field-testers, and we wants youse to shut your mouth about it, Capiche? 2) boring 3) You need autocorrect? You are best to be ignored. Ciao. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaubauu2009 Posted July 21, 2017 Share #106 Posted July 21, 2017 (edited) Incorrect on both counts. I never buy anything that I consider overpriced and overhyped. It never fails to amaze me that people do and complain afterwards. Interesting, how would one know whether something is overhyped and overpriced if they have not experience both the buying and the using of said product and come to the conclusion that it is what it is... so of course complaining can only be done once conclusion has been obtained...I am of course not as august as yourself in terms of not buying into anything that is overhype and overprice... I wonder whether Leica S is considered as one since I bought 3 times into it.... Edited July 21, 2017 by xiaubauu2009 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted July 21, 2017 Share #107 Posted July 21, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Somewhere in your observation you seem to have overlooked the word 'consider'. It does change the import. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted July 21, 2017 Share #108 Posted July 21, 2017 (edited) For goodness sake get a grip folks ! These issues are very soon forgotten ....... Have sales or the reputation of the 50/2 APO been permanently damaged by the flare issue that resulted in recalling most of them and then a 6 month gap whilst they sorted out the production/design issues ? ....... and the issue of the nice Portuguese worker who forgot to put Loctite on the strap lugs of the M so they had an alarming tendency to fall off ..... ? I suggest not. plus there was an issue with the original T where the wheels malfunctioned when GPS was switched on ....... and I could go on...... There is always a disproportionate rumpus about these things at the time .... which are completely forgotten about once they are sorted. Edited July 21, 2017 by thighslapper 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikasmg Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share #109 Posted July 21, 2017 Can you confirm if you were using Visioflex? I received mine a couple of hours ago and been shooting stuff indoor. So far so good. I dont have a Visioflex tho so I think I should be good.You're fine without the Visoflex:-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samir Jahjah Posted July 21, 2017 Share #110 Posted July 21, 2017 Well, my lovely day-old TL2 has morphed into a paperweight. Completely dead. I had recharged the battery last night so it can't be dead, but I'm charging it again. If that's not it I must head back to the Leica Store. Has anyone else had this experience? Could I be missing something? - Vikas After I returned the TL2 and Visoflex to the Leica Store as the camera went dead, I found a used T on eBay for a low price. The camera I got appears to be one of the very first ones produced which were refurbished by Leica - hence its low price. I am positively surprised by the excellent image quality - which surpasses all the 4/3 I have used (from Olympus and Panasonic) - except maybe the GH5 that my wife uses. I will patiently wait to see how and when a new TL2 is put back on the market... 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hector_jorge Posted July 22, 2017 Share #111 Posted July 22, 2017 Many years ago I bought a Leica R4, the first R electronic from Leica. After some time the camera during a holiday trip, was dead for a faulty electronic circuitry. Leica repair it and since then I had no problems with it. Troubles are ever present in new models. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 22, 2017 Share #112 Posted July 22, 2017 Interesting, how would one know whether something is overhyped and overpriced if they have not experience both the buying and the using of said product and come to the conclusion that it is what it is... so of course complaining can only be done once conclusion has been obtained... I am of course not as august as yourself in terms of not buying into anything that is overhype and overprice... I wonder whether Leica S is considered as one since I bought 3 times into it.... Well, I tend to gather some info on items that I purchase before I do so... Buying impulsively and blind does not work very well in my experience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted July 23, 2017 Share #113 Posted July 23, 2017 Well, I tend to gather some info on items that I purchase before I do so... Buying impulsively and blind does not work very well in my experience. Leica employs beta testers on whom forum members rely and reading their reviews and deciding to buy e.g. the TL2 (as I did) is in no way impulsive … or buying blind. I find your remark offensive and ill-considered. dunk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted July 23, 2017 Share #114 Posted July 23, 2017 Well, I tend to gather some info on items that I purchase before I do so... Buying impulsively and blind does not work very well in my experience. Rather disrespectful assumption, don't you think? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted July 23, 2017 Share #115 Posted July 23, 2017 Well, I tend to gather some info on items that I purchase before I do so... Buying impulsively and blind does not work very well in my experience. Rather disrespectful assumption, don't you think? All is right with the world again :-) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikasmg Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share #116 Posted July 23, 2017 A fix for the TL is expected next week. I'm assuming it will be another week then before the local Leica Store re-stocks the corrected cameras. I've asked the store hold on and not credit back my money to the card and just let me have the camera as soon as they receive the stock. I know a lot of excitement has been generated by this but I think this is a sfast resolution to a problem. The problem should not have occurred but these things do from time to time. Leica reacted fast and responsibly. - Vikas 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 23, 2017 Share #117 Posted July 23, 2017 Rather disrespectful assumption, don't you think? Towards whom? Just stating my modus operandi... I tend to research before I buy, assuming nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted July 23, 2017 Share #118 Posted July 23, 2017 Towards whom? Just stating my modus operandi... I tend to research before I buy, assuming nothing. Don't be perverse - the implication was clear. Your "modus operandi" is "to gather some information on items that [you] purchase before [you] do so" and very right and proper too. Meanwhile, the rest of us, and by clear implication anyone who has bought a TL2, buy "impulsively and blind", and very silly we are too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted July 23, 2017 Share #119 Posted July 23, 2017 Don't be perverse - the implication was clear. Your "modus operandi" is "to gather some information on items that [you] purchase before [you] do so" and very right and proper too. Meanwhile, the rest of us, and by clear implication anyone who has bought a TL2, buy "impulsively and blind", and very silly we are too That's how the comment came across to me too … and it makes a nonsense of forum etiquette which moderators should practise and lead by good example. dunk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikasmg Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share #120 Posted July 23, 2017 That's how the comment came across to me too … and it makes a nonsense of forum etiquette which moderators should practise and lead by good example. dunk I don't want to step in the middle of a new argument but I suspect that Jaapv's original comment was not meant to be disrespectful though I think that "impulsively and blind" comment did reflect a bit of unnecessary irritation. But things do get heated and mistakes happen with the best of us. The freezing TL2 being an example as well!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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