innerimager Posted June 24, 2007 Share #1 Posted June 24, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just shot a Martha and the Vandelas concert, (if you remember them, look for your pension check soon). Using a 35 lux with filter, I was quite pleased with the results using aperture for the first time, (though I must say I find the language and implementation of aperture a bit too cute and too much of a departure from other programs.) This was true in scenes shot in ambient twilight of the crowd, and with white colored stage lights. But, when the stage lights were red, flooding the pink dress, big problems occurred in Aperture. This is despite manual WB set at the time. My D2Hs handled it fine. So I opened the files in Raw Developer, ( I love it) and the problem was greatly diminished. Using different profiles in RD I could simulate the blown saturation of Aperture. By the way, I ended up using the default camera profile rather than the IR filter tuned profiles provided by RD in this example. Can the aperture/color gurus have a look? thanks...Peter Raw Developer Conversion Aperture Conversion No way to correct this using adjustments in aperture. And yes, I cloned out the water bottle in the keeper RD shot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eoin Posted June 24, 2007 Share #2 Posted June 24, 2007 Peter, Can you send me a link to the original DNG?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted June 24, 2007 Author Share #3 Posted June 24, 2007 Peter, Can you send me a link to the original DNG?. Hi Eoin - I uploaded the original to pBase. It appears to be a small size, maybe it's the embedded jpg showing? Please tell me if this works. Thanks...Peter http://www.pbase.com/halperin/image/81067372/original Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoin Posted June 24, 2007 Share #4 Posted June 24, 2007 Sorry peter, it's only a thumbnail, perhaps you can email it to me eoin(at)iol(dot)ie Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted June 24, 2007 Author Share #5 Posted June 24, 2007 Sorry peter, it's only a thumbnail, perhaps you can email it to me eoin(at)iol(dot)ie Thanks Eoin- This should do it, it's on a file sharing page at mac.com. Thanks....Peter http://homepage.mac.com/innerimager/FileSharing34.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoin Posted June 24, 2007 Share #6 Posted June 24, 2007 Downloading now! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoin Posted June 24, 2007 Share #7 Posted June 24, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Peter, this is what I refer to as the "pinkout" effect, I've seen this a lot in lightroom and I'm starting to see it in Aperture now we have the official support. I'm working on my own profile to eliminate exactly this effect but more so to eliminate this pinking effect with skin tones. I have no answer yet but here's where I am at the moment, first through aperture with my profile, second Apples M8 profile, third is lightroom. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/27416-aperture-color-problem/?do=findComment&comment=289304'>More sharing options...
Eoin Posted June 24, 2007 Share #8 Posted June 24, 2007 I ment to say you'll really need to view these in Safari not firefox Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted June 24, 2007 Author Share #9 Posted June 24, 2007 Interesting. Your profile seems too destaurated in general as I'm sure you agree at this stage. Once you perfect it, how does one enter a camera profile in aperture? Will it be a plist hack? The lightroom looks better, I think I like RD the best in this limited test. Appreciate all you are doing Eoin! best....Peter oh- I am using Safari Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_S Posted June 24, 2007 Share #10 Posted June 24, 2007 Peter, If you are interested, I made a conversion with Capture One. Please find it in my iDisk Public folder: http://homepage.mac.com/paul.steunebrink/FileSharing1.html It is close to your Raw Developer conversion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoin Posted June 24, 2007 Share #11 Posted June 24, 2007 Try this Another aperture profile. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/27416-aperture-color-problem/?do=findComment&comment=289317'>More sharing options...
alex7075 Posted June 24, 2007 Share #12 Posted June 24, 2007 Interesting. Your profile seems too destaurated in general as I'm sure you agree at this stage. Once you perfect it, how does one enter a camera profile in aperture? Will it be a plist hack? The lightroom looks better, I think I like RD the best in this limited test. Appreciate all you are doing Eoin! best....Peteroh- I am using Safari Yes, I am interested too in this answer. How to enter a camera profile in Aperture? I can't figure out... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordfanjpn Posted June 24, 2007 Share #13 Posted June 24, 2007 Here's a Silkypix version. Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoin Posted June 24, 2007 Share #14 Posted June 24, 2007 Aperture does not support multiple camera profiles(for want of a better word). The core image framework (raw.plist) provides support for raw formats and these profiles are read by Aperture at startup only. There is no problem having many M8 profiles in the raw.plist providing they don't conflict with their names. The only thing you'd have to do is point to the profile you wish to use inside the raw.plist with a string. I'm sure Ian our script expert could automate this process for us;) and we could set the profile prior to starting aperture. I'm only guessing, but perhaps this will be a feature in Aperture v2!. Let's hope they have some way to assign a profile as it's a little boring at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cam2000 Posted June 24, 2007 Share #15 Posted June 24, 2007 I tried the DNG in Aperture but did not like the magenta saturation..... this version was done with your original DNG and open in CS3 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/27416-aperture-color-problem/?do=findComment&comment=289348'>More sharing options...
innerimager Posted June 24, 2007 Author Share #16 Posted June 24, 2007 Peter, If you are interested, I made a conversion with Capture One. Please find it in my iDisk Public folder: http://homepage.mac.com/paul.steunebrink/FileSharing1.html It is close to your Raw Developer conversion. Paul- Thanks, I like it. I'm swamped with converter choices so will not venture into C1, but it looks good. What profile? best...Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted June 24, 2007 Author Share #17 Posted June 24, 2007 Try this Another aperture profile. still too destaurated I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted June 24, 2007 Author Share #18 Posted June 24, 2007 I tried the DNG in Aperture but did not like the magenta saturation..... this version was done with your original DNG and open in CS3 Looks good Jacques. CS3....too simple, too easy? ;>) best...Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted June 24, 2007 Author Share #19 Posted June 24, 2007 Here's a Silkypix version. Bill hey Bill, pretty good. I have Silkypix, haven't used it on the M8...yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex7075 Posted June 24, 2007 Share #20 Posted June 24, 2007 Aperture does not support multiple camera profiles(for want of a better word). The core image framework (raw.plist) provides support for raw formats and these profiles are read by Aperture at startup only. There is no problem having many M8 profiles in the raw.plist providing they don't conflict with their names. The only thing you'd have to do is point to the profile you wish to use inside the raw.plist with a string. I'm sure Ian our script expert could automate this process for us;) and we could set the profile prior to starting aperture. I'm only guessing, but perhaps this will be a feature in Aperture v2!. Let's hope they have some way to assign a profile as it's a little boring at the moment. Thank you very much. Now it's finally clear in my mind how it works. I really appreciate your help. Alex Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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