M10Alpine Posted June 23, 2017 Share #1 Posted June 23, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hit me up with pros and cons? What shall I get? I have 3 Summilux lenses 21/35/50. I predominantly just want to shoot film for fun, but also to teach my son who is about to tur 14. I had a Konica as a kid so really keen on this project. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 Hi M10Alpine, Take a look here New to Leica (film) M-P / M-A, M6 or M7?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
a.noctilux Posted June 23, 2017 Share #2 Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) My anciant love was MP (0.85 finder Black paint) to use with my Summilux/Noctilux . But now MP and others replaced by 2 M-A to use with my newer Elmarit-M, Summarit-M and Summaron-M . Life change so often . Your title ... M-P not film camera, only MP is for film use. Edited June 23, 2017 by a.noctilux 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbealnz Posted June 23, 2017 Share #3 Posted June 23, 2017 Any of the three you list would do, as would any of the "others": the non-metered versions. Depends how deep you want to learn, I mean an M2/3/4 without metering will likely teach you more than an M7 set on "A". Given your list of lenses, I don't feel cost is the issue, so just pick what you want, especially if you are near a dealer that has them. As an aside, I have had all three, and others. I currently only have an MP. MP has the advantage of being the newest, and most likely possibly to be repaired etc, although any of the manual film versions can be serviced. Gary 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M10Alpine Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share #4 Posted June 24, 2017 oh My anciant love was MP (0.85 finder Black paint) to use with my Summilux/Noctilux . But now MP and others replaced by 2 M-A to use with my newer Elmarit-M, Summarit-M and Summaron-M . Life change so often . Your title ... M-P not film camera, only MP is for film use. ps, sorry, MP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mute-on Posted June 24, 2017 Share #5 Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) From a purely practical point of view, and if budget is not a limiting factor, there is really only one sensible option ... MP! Why? New with warranty Light meter (practical) Modern rangefinder and prism construction (no Canadian balsam to separate, and condenser lens intact to avoid flare) Beautifully made Comes in black paint (warm to hold and develops character with use) I want (another) one I have MP (0.58 silver chrome), M2 and M4 BP. The M2 and M4 are nostalgically beautiful, but the MP is engineered just a little tighter, and has all the practical features a hobbyist photographer (and his son) would find useful (lightmeter, finder, that's it!) Most of all, enjoy your project with your son! Cheers J Edited June 24, 2017 by Mute-on 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko.Fe. Posted June 24, 2017 Share #6 Posted June 24, 2017 If you have money to spend, buy what you want for Luxes to be on pair and something easy for kid. Like serviced M2, Color Skopar, TwinMate lightmeter and bulk of bw film with developer and else to let kid to learn at his own and ask questions. And not always from you. They ask, learn on-line. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShivaYash Posted June 24, 2017 Share #7 Posted June 24, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'd recommend a twin body set up, nice to shoot two types of film at the same time. The MP is charming and very similar to the M6. As others have said, price doesn't seem to be an issue so go new. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted June 24, 2017 Share #8 Posted June 24, 2017 It's a personal choice so only you can make it. If I was buying new I'd buy the M-A and use a handheld meter / sunny 16 for metering (which is what I do with my M2). You need a shoe mounted finder for the 21 whichever M you buy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted June 24, 2017 Share #9 Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) A Hermes M6 for B&W and a a la carte M7 for color in brown leather with the dots Edited June 24, 2017 by otto.f 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frase Posted June 25, 2017 Share #10 Posted June 25, 2017 If money is no object then why not go for a black paint M4, I've had in the past both an MP and M6 but never felt they offered anymore than my M2 so let them go. The thing about Leica film bodies is you cant really go wrong as they are all good! and if you buy secondhand and you change your mind you wont loose any money or very little on resale. good luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwj Posted June 25, 2017 Share #11 Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) I assume you've read the thread "Best film M" just below this one? There are also plenty of other threads recently discussing these options. Good luck with your choice (I'd get an M-A) But to answer your pro/con question is impossible. One mans fish is another mans poison so to say - we all have our lives than another hates. Basically an MP is a fancy M6, the M7 is bigger with AE and a backwards big shutter dial (or normal way normal size if you've only used digital Ms), and the M-A is an M-P without a light meter. You make your choice based on meter or not, AE or not, fancy or not? Then we get into body finish... Edited June 25, 2017 by michaelwj 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted June 25, 2017 Share #12 Posted June 25, 2017 I had a Konica as a kid so really keen on this project. How keen on it is your son? Get him his own Pentax K1000+50mm. If you find he's still committed after a couple years let him pick out his own Leica and a lens and you can pay for it. For you, M4, or something else, s-a 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Verrips Posted June 25, 2017 Share #13 Posted June 25, 2017 I would choose between the M7 (with meter and Aperture priority + at 1/60 & 1/125 shutter is also manual so can work without battery) and the MP (with meter but shutter speeds work manual without batteries at all speeds). Check what kind of film rewind knob you prefer and if you like/dislike the shutterspeed dials on both camera's. The M7 has the bigger dial, the MP the smaller. I have a M2/M4/M7 (3 times). I love the MP, so maybe i will trade a M7 for a black paint MP. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madNbad Posted June 25, 2017 Share #14 Posted June 25, 2017 My vote is for the M-A. It's new, so you don't have to send it off for a CLA. No electronics, teach your son how to meter and read the light. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRIago Posted June 26, 2017 Share #15 Posted June 26, 2017 M6. It's gonna work the same way as the MP and prett damn close to the M-A if you want it to (just remove the batteries). You are gonna save a lot of money as well. That's what I would do. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M10Alpine Posted June 26, 2017 Author Share #16 Posted June 26, 2017 From a purely practical point of view, and if budget is not a limiting factor, there is really only one sensible option ... MP! Why? New with warranty Light meter (practical) Modern rangefinder and prism construction (no Canadian balsam to separate, and condenser lens intact to avoid flare) Beautifully made Comes in black paint (warm to hold and develops character with use) I want (another) one I have MP (0.58 silver chrome), M2 and M4 BP. The M2 and M4 are nostalgically beautiful, but the MP is engineered just a little tighter, and has all the practical features a hobbyist photographer (and his son) would find useful (lightmeter, finder, that's it!) Most of all, enjoy your project with your son! Cheers J Ideally I find one second hand. I don't have a unlimited budget sadly, the I would have a Noctilux and a 50mm APO.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M10Alpine Posted June 26, 2017 Author Share #17 Posted June 26, 2017 Thanks, much great input! M6 seams to somewhat equal MP-MA M7 has its own advantages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abram Posted June 29, 2017 Share #18 Posted June 29, 2017 I really loved my MP and as I simultaneously had an M-A when it came time to sell one or the other I chose to keep the M-A. I've been asked why I would choose a meterless camera numerous times, but the real answer is that I preferred the framelines of the M-A. The argument is made over and over that one can just "take the batteries out" of an M6 or MP and "have an M-A" but that's simply not the case. The M6 and MP have the bottom frameline for the 35 and 28 broken to make room for the meter LEDs. So if there's no meter on you just have a big gaping hole down there. Especially if your camera is modified like mine was to mask the 75 and 135mm framelines. I like that the M-A has solid framelines for the 35 and 28. It's a small difference, I fully appreciate that, but it was enough of one for me that it helped make my decision on which to keep. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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