dancook Posted June 12, 2017 Share #1 Posted June 12, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Do you ever find the SL completely unresponsive to AF? I'm not sure if it's after coming out of sleep mode, but I have found the shutter button / back button to do nothing for 5+ seconds before springing into life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thighslapper Posted June 12, 2017 Share #2 Posted June 12, 2017 No. Odd issues like this usually get blamed on SD cards ....... but that opens another can of worms..... and a thread that may run for months ...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geetee1972 Posted June 12, 2017 Share #3 Posted June 12, 2017 No. Odd issues like this usually get blamed on SD cards ....... but that opens another can of worms..... and a thread that may run for months ...... Interestingly I was advised by a Leica technician in their Mayfair store not to use UHC-II cards in my SL. They have an extra set of pins in their connection designed specifically for video and apparently the SL doesn't have a connector for them so UHC-II cards are completely redundant in the SL and can cause software glitches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted June 12, 2017 Share #4 Posted June 12, 2017 you mean UHS-II cards ? Interestingly I was advised by a Leica technician in their Mayfair store not to use UHC-II cards in my SL. They have an extra set of pins in their connection designed specifically for video and apparently the SL doesn't have a connector for them so UHC-II cards are completely redundant in the SL and can cause software glitches. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/273392-unresponsive-af/?do=findComment&comment=3293700'>More sharing options...
geetee1972 Posted June 12, 2017 Share #5 Posted June 12, 2017 Well there you go Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted June 12, 2017 Share #6 Posted June 12, 2017 It hasn't happened to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted June 12, 2017 Share #7 Posted June 12, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) somewhat bizarre advice as the SL has a dedicated UHS II slot ....... they do however only recommend a limited list of compatible UHS II cards compared to 'any' UHS I card. I've only ever used Sandisk Extreme Pro UHS II16gb from day one with the SL and never had any issues I could attribute to card glitches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share #8 Posted June 12, 2017 Using "SanDisk Extreme PRO 256 GB SDXC Memory Card up to 95 MB/s, Class 10, U3, V30" for what it's worth Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted June 12, 2017 Share #9 Posted June 12, 2017 i rarely go above 64gb...i sometimes have doubts whether the processors on these cameras can actually address 256gb/512gb memory storage.. 16gb/32gb seems quite snappy and "safe"...this problem you encountered could be because of the system waking up from sleep mode...try a longer setting ? Using "SanDisk Extreme PRO 256 GB SDXC Memory Card up to 95 MB/s, Class 10, U3, V30" for what it's worth Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted June 12, 2017 Share #10 Posted June 12, 2017 Do you ever find the SL completely unresponsive to AF? I'm not sure if it's after coming out of sleep mode, but I have found the shutter button / back button to do nothing for 5+ seconds before springing into life. Start-up and Sleep Mode times seem almost identical on the SL so I suspect 'Sleep' is what it says ..... an electronic 'Auto Power Off' rather than some halfway asleep position. Initiation results in 'Card Search' ...... probably some card integrity/memory check ....... checking the lens type and initiating the profiles and AF firmware etc. Any delay suggests the camera is doing something related to these processes ...... poor SD contacts, memory integrity issues, poor lens contacts etc are possible physical causes...... As there are multiple possible setting combinations on the SL there could be a firmware bug that only occurs under quite rare circumstances resulting in it being stuck in a loop till timed out. Working out what is going on with intermittent problems is almost impossible unless a definite pattern appears ..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted June 12, 2017 Share #11 Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) wonder if the SL does sensor cleaning after every sleep-awake cycle as well ? that's a straight 1.5 - 2 secs Start-up and Sleep Mode times seem almost identical on the SL so I suspect 'Sleep' is what it says ..... an electronic 'Auto Power Off' rather than some halfway asleep position. Initiation results in 'Card Search' ...... probably some card integrity/memory check ....... checking the lens type and initiating the profiles and AF firmware etc. Any delay suggests the camera is doing something related to these processes ...... poor SD contacts, memory integrity issues, poor lens contacts etc are possible physical causes...... As there are multiple possible setting combinations on the SL there could be a firmware bug that only occurs under quite rare circumstances resulting in it being stuck in a loop till timed out. Working out what is going on with intermittent problems is almost impossible unless a definite pattern appears ..... Edited June 12, 2017 by frame-it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenw0lf Posted June 12, 2017 Share #12 Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) Interestingly I was advised by a Leica technician in their Mayfair store not to use UHC-II cards in my SL. They have an extra set of pins in their connection designed specifically for video and apparently the SL doesn't have a connector for them so UHC-II cards are completely redundant in the SL and can cause software glitches. Do you never check the information "you get" if it is plausible, before repeating it in a "public" place ? This sentence is full of nonsense - I hardly know where to start. The SL offers support for UHS-I and UHS-II cards - UHC is not existing. Only slot 1 is for UHS-II (the faster cards). Both slots for the slower cards. UHS-II cards offer at least 30 MB/s write speed which is necessary for 4k video. If you do no video, usually the UHS-I cards are fast enough. But the UHS-II cards are slightly better - and now after the firmware upgrade the speed of the camera (writing) is probably improved. So it could be worthwhile to make a small test of the current speed of UHS-II cards. And no card has ever caused software glitches for me - maybe for others, but only on very rare occasions. If there were a lot, then there would exist a long list full of warnings. Edited June 12, 2017 by steppenw0lf Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang Posted June 12, 2017 Share #13 Posted June 12, 2017 Have you check whether the lens is fixed properly to the SL ? It happens to me on a number of occasions on my first expedition with the SL ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share #14 Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) Have you check whether the lens is fixed properly to the SL ? It happens to me on a number of occasions on my first expedition with the SL ? I will see if I can recreate the issue now, and I have confirmed the lens is on properly, turned it on and AF was usable as soon as I saw the display appear. I will let it go to sleep and try later. -- it had a short sleep timer, it worked fine. I will consider it next time, if it happens again. Edited June 12, 2017 by dancook Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geetee1972 Posted June 12, 2017 Share #15 Posted June 12, 2017 Do you never check the information "you get" if it is plausible, before repeating it in a "public" place ? This sentence is full of nonsense - I hardly know where to start. The SL offers support for UHS-I and UHS-II cards - UHC is not existing. Only slot 1 is for UHS-II (the faster cards). Both slots for the slower cards. UHS-II cards offer at least 30 MB/s write speed which is necessary for 4k video. If you do no video, usually the UHS-I cards are fast enough. But the UHS-II cards are slightly better - and now after the firmware upgrade the speed of the camera (writing) is probably improved. So it could be worthwhile to make a small test of the current speed of UHS-II cards. And no card has ever caused software glitches for me - maybe for others, but only on very rare occasions. If there were a lot, then there would exist a long list full of warnings. For someone who didn't know where to start I think you handled that really well. I check the things that are important to me. This wasn't really that and as I said, I was merely relaying what was said to me by a Leica technician in their Mayfair store. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang Posted June 12, 2017 Share #16 Posted June 12, 2017 Have you check whether the lens is fixed properly to the SL ? It happens to me on a number of occasions on my first expedition with the SL ? I will see if I can recreate the issue now, and I have confirmed the lens is on properly, turned it on and AF was usable as soon as I saw the display appear.I will let it go to sleep and try later.-- it had a short sleep timer, it worked fine.I will consider it next time, if it happens again. Glad it worked. Not a card issue here Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted June 12, 2017 Share #17 Posted June 12, 2017 I will consider it next time, if it happens again. it won't ....... until some critical time where you want to take a photo immediately ...... and then you will be so monumentally pissed off that rational thought and investigation will be forgotten ..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted June 12, 2017 Share #18 Posted June 12, 2017 Odd problem. I've not seen it happen with my camera so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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