ECohen Posted June 11, 2017 Author Share #21  Posted June 11, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Seee page 44 of Overgaard's review of the M 240. Towards the bottom of the page.  Page 44 Are you referring to the Leica's Macro Adapter (14652) ? That's where this thread started .......thanks. I appreciate everyone advice and help. I got a lot of great ideas to solve any macro issues that may come up. As are for just wanting to focus closer then 30" I think ROVER's advice has simplified the issue for me in Post #10  from Post #10 "I know the feeling or mindset of wanting to be in a bit closer to your subject, but what i have done is adjust my thinking a bit and just work around it"  Thanks to all. For now I'm just going to rethink and work around it......Macro Adapter (14652) is just what it says it says it is........... a Macro Adapter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 Hi ECohen, Take a look here I want to get closer than 30". I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
ferider Posted June 11, 2017 Share #22 Â Posted June 11, 2017 Please identify this interesting configuration? ....thanks These are my 240 with SOMKY, UOORF and rigid Summicron. Works well, but i admit using a 90mm lens instead is less of a hassle. Â Roland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted June 11, 2017 Author Share #23 Â Posted June 11, 2017 These are my 240 with SOMKY, UOORF and rigid Summicron. Works well, but i admit using a 90mm lens instead is less of a hassle. Â Roland. Â Neat !!! Thank You Leica has some very inventive tech to make "close up" make sense on rangefinder. Â Live view does make it easy ....but not as much fun to collect ....Great stuff thank you for sharing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted June 11, 2017 Share #24 Â Posted June 11, 2017 Rather than forcing a Leica to close focus, it might be more cost effective to use a 4/3 camera which costs less in whole than the Leica accessories. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share #25  Posted June 12, 2017 Rather than forcing a Leica to close focus, it might be more cost effective to use a 4/3 camera which costs less in whole than the Leica accessories. .   I know ....I'm sorta set..... its my general style to want to move in 6 inches closer 45 years.... out of art school and a career in photography...... I still hear my photo teachers telling me..... to move in.  Being retired I want less cameras and less stuff.  But the voices in my head just wont go away ....."fill the frame"....... "fill the frame"....."fill the frame" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_schertel Posted June 12, 2017 Share #26  Posted June 12, 2017 I have thought on some possibilities:  1. with older lenses: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  It works fine with Elmar 65 mm, the heads of Elmarit 90 mm, Hektor 135 mm(plus ring OTSRO/16472), Tele-Elmarit 135 mm.   the same with Bellows II, works with all lenses, even with modern ones or enlarging lenses (you need the correct adaptors)   2. also with modern lenses:  The ring TXBOO replaces Visoflex, you can it use also as extension ring.  parts of other devices can help you too:   yours sincerely Thomas Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  It works fine with Elmar 65 mm, the heads of Elmarit 90 mm, Hektor 135 mm(plus ring OTSRO/16472), Tele-Elmarit 135 mm.   the same with Bellows II, works with all lenses, even with modern ones or enlarging lenses (you need the correct adaptors)   2. also with modern lenses:  The ring TXBOO replaces Visoflex, you can it use also as extension ring.  parts of other devices can help you too:   yours sincerely Thomas ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/272731-i-want-to-get-closer-than-30/?do=findComment&comment=3294084'>More sharing options...
steamboat Posted June 26, 2017 Share #27 Â Posted June 26, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I want to get closer with my 21mm f2.8 Elmarit. 'Anybody tried +1 filter on it? My (good old) 21mm f4.0 Super Angulon focused down to 12". Well, it didn't "focus" down to 12" you sorta had to guess when you ran out of rangefinder at about .7meter. And, no, I don't want to buy a pre-production model of my lens that does go down to 12" but costs around US20K. Anyway, anybody had any luck with +1 filters? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted June 26, 2017 Author Share #28  Posted June 26, 2017 I want to get closer with my 21mm f2.8 Elmarit. 'Anybody tried +1 filter on it? My (good old) 21mm f4.0 Super Angulon focused down to 12". Well, it didn't "focus" down to 12" you sorta had to guess when you ran out of rangefinder at about .7meter. And, no, I don't want to buy a pre-production model of my lens that does go down to 12" but costs around US20K. Anyway, anybody had any luck with +1 filters?  Yes. That's how this link started. I currently use a 39mm +1 close up filter and was looking for additional solutions. I travel light and most of my lenses are 39mm Thanks for your input ......its appreciated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboat Posted June 26, 2017 Share #29  Posted June 26, 2017 Yes. That's how this link started. I currently use a 39mm +1 close up filter and was looking for additional solutions. I travel light and most of my lenses are 39mm Thanks for your input ......its appreciated  Right. But how well did it work? That's what I was trying to figure out. Did it seem sharp enough, how difficult was it "focusing". I just wondered how well it worked out. I am kind of assuming it wasn't great or you wouldn't be asking about extension rings. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted June 26, 2017 Author Share #30  Posted June 26, 2017 Right. But how well did it work? That's what I was trying to figure out. Did it seem sharp enough, how difficult was it "focusing". I just wondered how well it worked out. I am kind of assuming it wasn't great or you wouldn't be asking about extension rings. :-)  It does work and is very sharp....no problems using closeup lenses ...but they slow me down....maybe that's a good thing? Say you framed at 20" you just cant get their with those rangefinder lenses. I guess its just wishful thinking on my part to want something that focus closer. A more elegant solution like Nikon 55mm macro that focus from infinity to 9.84". But for obvious reasons it doesn't exist in the rangefinder lenses.  I'm OK with the M as it is .....but I just wanted a few more inches....without fiddling. So yea I'm fine with the +1 solution Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamboat Posted June 27, 2017 Share #31 Â Posted June 27, 2017 Okay - thanks. Good info. M just isn't ideal for close-ups (obviously). I've always used SLRs and now DSLRs for such work. They're easy. But you don't want to carry one around just for close-ups. I suppose the EVF on the M would work well. Good luck with your project. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandler Posted June 27, 2017 Share #32 Â Posted June 27, 2017 Okay - thanks. Good info. M just isn't ideal for close-ups (obviously). I've always used SLRs and now DSLRs for such work. They're easy. But you don't want to carry one around just for close-ups. I suppose the EVF on the M would work well. Good luck with your project.The vintage Nikkor 5cm LTM f2 lens focuses down to half a meter, which is better than the 0.9 or 0.7 typical for rangefinder lenses. You lose rangefinder coupling at 0.7 but for that extra little bit it works well and I do find myself taking advantage of it. Here's an example of a shot that would not have been possible with my other RF 50mm lenses... Â Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share #33  Posted June 27, 2017 The vintage Nikkor 5cm LTM f2 lens focuses down to half a meter, which is better than the 0.9 or 0.7 typical for rangefinder lenses. You lose rangefinder coupling at 0.7 but for that extra little bit it works well and I do find myself taking advantage of it. Here's an example of a shot that would not have been possible with my other RF 50mm lenses...  Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk  Well that's a very cool solution and it has a "special" quality to boot! I don't mind EVF.  I don't know much about the history of Nikon /Leica rangefinder. Will it Mount to the M 240 without an adapter?  Whats the down side. Will it focus to infinity? Wonder how the color is on digital 240? It looks like it could be fun to play with....and a cheap experiment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted June 27, 2017 Share #34  Posted June 27, 2017 Please identify this interesting configuration? ....thanks SOMKY-UOORF...a kit I do know well..still the easiest and lightest way to have a 50mm that goes to 50cm on M : bright view, quick RF focusing, good image quality (the old Summicron is still one of the best 50s).  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  To go beyond... if one wants to have continuos focus to infinity, probably the best way is Macro elmarit 60 adapted to M. For Macro only there are lot of possibilities with OUFRO and its chinese copy (I have both.. and they do stack fine, too...) Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  To go beyond... if one wants to have continuos focus to infinity, probably the best way is Macro elmarit 60 adapted to M. For Macro only there are lot of possibilities with OUFRO and its chinese copy (I have both.. and they do stack fine, too...) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/272731-i-want-to-get-closer-than-30/?do=findComment&comment=3303471'>More sharing options...
sandler Posted June 27, 2017 Share #35  Posted June 27, 2017 Well that's a very cool solution and it has a "special" quality to boot! I don't mind EVF.  I don't know much about the history of Nikon /Leica rangefinder. Will it Mount to the M 240 without an adapter?  Whats the down side. Will it focus to infinity? Wonder how the color is on digital 240? It looks like it could be fun to play with....and a cheap experiment. It's a Leica screw mount lens that can be got on line for less than $200.  For mounting on an M body you need the LTM to M adapters. The lens itself close focuses to 0.5m, so there are no issues with infinity focus or extremely narrow depth of field (other than the physical phenomenon  that depth of field contracts as you get closer) .  When focusing and you get to the limit of what the rangefinder will show you as focusing, there is a little extra tension and you keep turning to go into "macro" scale focusing (the distances are marked on the lens but you can't verify focus with the rangefinder). I don't have a M240, but it mounts without any issues on my M8 and film M mounts, with the adapter. It's a sonnar type lens so colors should be nice, see some samples here from my M8: https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=96319283%40N08&sort=date-taken-desc&text=nikkor%20h%20c&view_all=1 .  There are different versions of the lens but ones including "H C" in the name indicate that they are coated (not sure if the ones without aren't...). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECohen Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share #36 Â Posted June 27, 2017 $200 ~250Â plus an adapter ......I think it will be fun to play with....I have to check ebay ......Thanks I like the softness.... bet its a good people lens too? Â Nice photos BTW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblutter Posted July 7, 2017 Share #37  Posted July 7, 2017 Sooky-M only gets you to .9m. New 50 Summi's go to .7m. I've got all that gear which is fun but...  Classic Viso III is my go to for macro & now with LV, assured focus - which was previously difficult with either of the 2 viewers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted July 8, 2017 Share #38 Â Posted July 8, 2017 Sooky-M only gets you to .9m... ... to .48m , to be precise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 8, 2017 Share #39  Posted July 8, 2017 This nifty piece of gear works on all Elmar 50 lenses - it should work on Summicrons as well, the only downside is that one has to play around a bit for framing due to the different geometry of the cameras:    Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!      Elmar-M f=8.0 I focused on the left of the middle of the hole:   Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!      Elmar-M f=8.0 I focused on the left of the middle of the hole:   ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/272731-i-want-to-get-closer-than-30/?do=findComment&comment=3311119'>More sharing options...
tamas Posted July 8, 2017 Share #40  Posted July 8, 2017 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Gosh!  so much lovely equipment and macro attachments.  It just seems a fair amount of equipment to me to involve in achieving a close up?   The last rare time I ventured into getting a close up picture effect was to use my 75mm apo-summicron.  Per sample below. Distance was between 1.5  and 2 metres best I recall, with approx 80% crop.  Certainly achieves the closer than 30" to me.  The cheats way I suppose ;-) Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Gosh!  so much lovely equipment and macro attachments.  It just seems a fair amount of equipment to me to involve in achieving a close up?   The last rare time I ventured into getting a close up picture effect was to use my 75mm apo-summicron.  Per sample below. Distance was between 1.5  and 2 metres best I recall, with approx 80% crop.  Certainly achieves the closer than 30" to me.  The cheats way I suppose ;-) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/272731-i-want-to-get-closer-than-30/?do=findComment&comment=3311138'>More sharing options...
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