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Will Leica's Macro Adapter (14652) solve my issue?
Love my M and its primes....but I want to focus closer than 30" and its coming up more than I expected.
The lenses I use 28/35/50& a 90 (not the macro) Currently I carry a +1 close up filter or I "crop in".... I don't like cropping too much.


 Macro Adapter (14652) is variable? .... I prefer not messing with a set of individual rings.

 I assume I lose focusing at infinity ?
 

Any down side, I'm missing? It should be said I'm OK with the current EVF
Suggestions welcome.

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Only solution i know of is the VM-E close focus adapter for M lenses to Sony bodies. Great device allowing to focus from 0.2m to infinity without accessory. On M bodies, the 14652 Macro-Adapter-M allows for close-ups with any M lens but must be removed to focus at infinity. 

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A trick I discovered is using a OUFRO with my collapsible Summicron 50mm f2.

Using the lens extended gives nice close-up, and collapsing the lens still allows infinity focus.

Of course you need live-view.

 

that is if you can find a OUFRO at a reasonable price... ;)

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A trick I discovered is using a OUFRO with my collapsible Summicron 50mm f2.

Using the lens extended gives nice close-up, and collapsing the lens still allows infinity focus.

Of course you need live-view.

 

that is if you can find a OUFRO at a reasonable price... ;)

 

Great! Now I gotta buy a new 50 :)

It is a good solution ........thanks

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A trick I discovered is using a OUFRO with my collapsible Summicron 50mm f2.

Using the lens extended gives nice close-up, and collapsing the lens still allows infinity focus.

Of course you need live-view.

 

that is if you can find a OUFRO at a reasonable price... ;)

David, that's a great idea.  How close can you focus with the lens extended?  

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Will Leica's Macro Adapter (14652) solve my issue?

Love my M and its primes....but I want to focus closer than 30" and its coming up more than I expected.

The lenses I use 28/35/50& a 90 (not the macro) Currently I carry a +1 close up filter or I "crop in".... I don't like cropping too much.

 Macro Adapter (14652) is variable? .... I prefer not messing with a set of individual rings.

 

 I assume I lose focusing at infinity ?

 

Any down side, I'm missing? It should be said I'm OK with the current EVF

Suggestions welcome.

 

I don't have quantifiable distance numbers to share as I am still working with and testing the Macro M adapter and several of my M lenses, but so far, my findings show that the Macro M adapter severely shortens your working distance range and DOF, which becomes very narrow, it is designed for close up use, not general photography as far as i can tell.

It gets you closer to your subject but limits usage to Macro.

I also agree, the Oufro which i also have and am also testing with different lenses gives you "some" more usage flexibility than the Macro M adapter and costs much less too. The EVF seems to work fine with both adapters.

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I don't have quantifiable distance numbers to share as I am still working with and testing the Macro M adapter and several of my M lenses, but so far, my findings show that the Macro M adapter severely shortens your working distance range and DOF, which becomes very narrow, it is designed for close up use, not general photography as far as i can tell.

It gets you closer to your subject but limits usage to Macro.

I also agree, the Oufro which i also have and am also testing with different lenses gives you "some" more usage flexibility than the Macro M adapter and costs much less too. The EVF seems to work fine with both adapters.

 

So the Oufro is thinner giving me more working distance?

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In a different thread I did some measurements with photos to illustrate...the closest distance between front of the lense and object with the 50mm Summilux is around 10 cm, with the 28mm Summilux I got around 2 cm...both with quite narrow depth of field, both with the Macro-Adapter of course.

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So the Oufro is thinner giving me more working distance?

 

I just ran a test with the M240, 1 Oufro ring and a 50mm M lens, the working distance is closer, about 11.5 inches, but the longest available focusing distance is limited to only about 14.5", measuring to the Focal Plane of the camera. The Down side is a very limited working range of only about 3 inches. (best suited to macro work)

So with any macro type extender, you are significantly losing the ability use them for any distance work at all.

I know the feeling or mindset of wanting to be in a bit closer to your subject, but what i have done is adjust my thinking a bit and just work around it. Most of my lenses also dictate an approximate 27 inch distance as the Closest i can get too.

Hope this helps.

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Great! Now I gotta buy a new 50 :)

It is a good solution ........thanks

 

David, that's a great idea.  How close can you focus with the lens extended?  

 

Just set up the 50mm Summicron collapsible and the OUFRO, on my live-view M-P.

 

Measurements show the OUFRO, with extended lens, will focus closest at 23 cm (9"), from the front of the lens.  It gives a reproduction ratio of 1:4.

As I said, if the lens is collapsed, whilst still attached to the OUFRO, the combination will still focus at infinity.

 

all best..

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Thanks for setting it up and measuring.  Is it possible to vary the lens extension to focus at reproduction between 1:4 and infinity, I guess it's more a question whether it's physically stable enough at intermediate positions of lens extension?

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I have no problems holding the extension at whatever focal distance.

It's a bit disconcerting and I wouldn't expect the partial extension to "hold" whilst moving around.  But it works just fine really.

 

More for when you want to do some "close-up", and still have infinity...and still want to use only Leica gear.

 

In general I use a Micro Nikkor 55mm f3.5 if I want to do macro.  This lens extends from 1:2 to infinity.

 

I have tubes as well for Nikkor and ltm lenses, if I want more enlargement using tripod/copy stand.

 Also can use my Bellows II with the OUFRO and M-P.

 

Of course there are screw-on meniscus and achromat lenses too.

 

But for a walkaround, if you may want to focus close+keep infinity focus...it does work as a simple system.

 

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Just some days ago bought from ebay a chinese copy of OUFRO. Appears to have 6-bit system engraved. 50Eur. I do not have high expectations to far east crap, but curiosity about 6-bit possibility was reason to buy. After first testing (yet without 6bit encoding) looks like that EVF is otherwise working fine, but focus aid, (5x or 10x),does not activate.

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Just some days ago bought from ebay a chinese copy of OUFRO. Appears to have 6-bit system engraved. 50Eur. I do not have high expectations to far east crap, but curiosity about 6-bit possibility was reason to buy. After first testing (yet without 6bit encoding) looks like that EVF is otherwise working fine, but focus aid, (5x or 10x),does not activate.

 

Focus aid (x5, x10) can be activated by the front button if you have configurate it's function correctly.

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