Leicaiste Posted May 31, 2017 Share #121 Posted May 31, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) New top features § For Leica M and Leica R lenses the real-time display of the established aperture is hidden I hope this is only optional. Who asked for that ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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geetee1972 Posted May 31, 2017 Share #122 Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) HSS works fine with SF-40 and SF-64. Presumably SF-58 too, but I don't have that flash. I just put the SF-64 on the SL, SL in M mode, rotated the shutter speed back and forth from 1/250 to 1/320; TTL and TTL-HSS toggles back and forth accordingly on the SF-64 screen. If you want HSS outdoors, you'll need to put the SL in full manual mode. Outdoors (in daylight) the SL's metering is likely not to calculate an exposure gap due to more than ample light from the sun. Thus, no need for the camera to send the "fire flash" message to hot shoe. Best bet (based on my experience) is to put both the camera and flash in full manual mode. You'll get HSS speeds. No doubt, Leica's flash schema for outdoor daylight fill is a tug-of-war. If shooting in A mode or something along those lines, it's hopeless. I've resorted to going full manual which is pain because there is an iteration process to get the exposure right. I'm talking about full manual and sync speeds of 1/8000th of a second with a studio strobe, so you can kill the ambient in broad daylight and still use shallow depth of field. This is something you can do with modern strobes but only if the camera supports the communication with the transmitter. Profoto support it with Nikon, Canon, Sony and Olympus, but not Leica because the camera doesn't have the comm's built in to allow it. Edited May 31, 2017 by geetee1972 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Na har Posted May 31, 2017 Share #123 Posted May 31, 2017 For Leica M and Leica R lenses the real-time display of the established aperture is hidden ?? Does that mean that from now on I cannot see what my F stop is when using M or R lenses?? Or am I not understanding? Being able to see what my aperture was through the viewfinder (even if it was an educated guess by the camera) was useful to me. This is something I would like to get back. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafikiphoto Posted May 31, 2017 Share #124 Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) Some of us complained about this but others thought it wasn't useful. They won. Edited May 31, 2017 by rafikiphoto Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuau Posted May 31, 2017 Share #125 Posted May 31, 2017 Great update and really liking exposure preview in M mode now.. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geetee1972 Posted May 31, 2017 Share #126 Posted May 31, 2017 OK how do you turn off exposure preview in M mode? If you're shooting manually with strobes you can't do this with exposure preview on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiraCrowell Posted May 31, 2017 Share #127 Posted May 31, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just installed the firmware and it is fabulous! A game-changer for sure. Just made a number of changes that I've long hoped for but the joystick focus reset is not immediately intuitive. Normally I press the joystick for rear focus, is it now a reset? Anyone know how the new focus reset option works? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted May 31, 2017 Share #128 Posted May 31, 2017 OK how do you turn off exposure preview in M mode? If you're shooting manually with strobes you can't do this with exposure preview on. Second page of CAMERA settings is Exp. Preview, change it to PAS from PASM 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geetee1972 Posted May 31, 2017 Share #129 Posted May 31, 2017 Second page of CAMERA settings is Exp. Preview, change it to PAS from PASM Ah yes, that makes sense now. Thanks buddy. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irakly Shanidze Posted May 31, 2017 Share #130 Posted May 31, 2017 For Leica M and Leica R lenses the real-time display of the established aperture is hidden ?? Does that mean that from now on I cannot see what my F stop is when using M or R lenses?? Or am I not understanding? Being able to see what my aperture was through the viewfinder (even if it was an educated guess by the camera) was useful to me. This is something I would like to get back. Can't you see your aperture on a lens when you are shooting? The problem with showing the aperture when shooting with lenses that do not report it back to the camera is that it is only an estimate, which is not accurate in at least 50% of cases. It is better to have no information at all than something that you cannot rely upon (and do not really need to). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irakly Shanidze Posted May 31, 2017 Share #131 Posted May 31, 2017 The new firmware upgraded both SL zooms. To activate the upgrade, you need to mount a lens when the camera is switched off. I wish there were new firmware for TL lenses (namely 18-56 zoom), which is absolutely great for 4K video, but sometimes acts erratically. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Na har Posted May 31, 2017 Share #132 Posted May 31, 2017 >>Can't you see your aperture on a lens when you are shooting? Irakly, Of course I could check the aperture on the lens, and I realize that under the previous firmware the camera was only guessing at the aperture being used, but during a shoot, (being on assignment of plain leisure shooting), I would vary my aperture, or decide to focus wide open for added accuracy and then stop down the aperture by a stop or two, it was much easier to do all of that if I saw (with approximate accuracy) what my F stop was through the viewfinder, and not having to slow down, and leave the viewfinder to look at the lens. And a point about the camera's accuracy in guessing the aperture- that didn't matter much to me that it was not 100% accurate- If I saw the display show f/1.4, 1.8, or even f/2 I knew the lens was open enough. If it would show f/5.6 or f/8 then I knew I was stopped down. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mehtasunil Posted May 31, 2017 Share #133 Posted May 31, 2017 For Leica M and Leica R lenses the real-time display of the established aperture is hidden ?? Does that mean that from now on I cannot see what my F stop is when using M or R lenses?? Or am I not understanding? Being able to see what my aperture was through the viewfinder (even if it was an educated guess by the camera) was useful to me. This is something I would like to get back. It was useful to me too...disappointed, why they have to remove? Would like to get it back, maybe with an option of view/hidden (those who do not want can put on hidden and look at Aperture on the Lens) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Na har Posted May 31, 2017 Share #134 Posted May 31, 2017 Rafikiphoto: >>Some of us complained about this but others thought it wasn't useful. They won. ...So the nixing of this feature was because there was need to use the resources within the camera for another feature? Or was this something like: "since we cannot guarantee 100% accuracy of the information we will just delete it"? I'm having upgraders remorse, wish I could downgrade to v. 2.2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirbott Posted May 31, 2017 Share #135 Posted May 31, 2017 Updatet all seems ok; updated 24-90 firmware too Inviato dal mio iPad utilizzando Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafikiphoto Posted May 31, 2017 Share #136 Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) The problem with showing the aperture when shooting with lenses that do not report it back to the camera is that it is only an estimate, which is not accurate in at least 50% of cases. It is better to have no information at all than something that you cannot rely upon (and do not really need to). That's your opinion. If you don't want it you are fine. For those that do want it, there should be no reason not to have the option. Edited May 31, 2017 by rafikiphoto 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistairm Posted May 31, 2017 Share #137 Posted May 31, 2017 The decision to remove the aperture guess was made for the M10 and is just the new M approach filtering into the SL. Personally, I prefer not having incorrect EXIF data, but I sympathise for those who miss it. In the end, at this time, I suppose Leica prefers the field to be blank than for every photo with an M lens to have wobbly EXIF data embedded, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Na har Posted May 31, 2017 Share #138 Posted May 31, 2017 Alistairm, Strangely the aperture is removed only in the camera display, yet it is alive and well in the image exif data... I just checked. and I thank you for the sympathy. Cheers, Na Har 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff S Posted May 31, 2017 Share #139 Posted May 31, 2017 I wish we wouldn't have to keep the trigger half pressed in video to use dynamic or AF-C. Really impossible when using a gimbal or tripod even. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antigallican Posted May 31, 2017 Share #140 Posted May 31, 2017 OK how do you turn off exposure preview in M mode? If you're shooting manually with strobes you can't do this with exposure preview on. Do tell if you find out. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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