Guest Posted June 6, 2017 Share #21 Posted June 6, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Front loading with the P800 reminds me of the old joke, "How do you get to Carnegie Hall" answer "Practice". Personally I am delighted with the printer and I am back to where it all started and putting pictures on the wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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philipus Posted June 8, 2017 Share #22 Posted June 8, 2017 I'm personally leaning towards the P800 but has anyone got any experience with the Pro-1000 from Canon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 8, 2017 Share #23 Posted June 8, 2017 Several articles / videos on the the Canon on LuLa. Northlight also has a review. And a search should bring up other forum discussion. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted June 8, 2017 Share #24 Posted June 8, 2017 Thank you Jeff. I had a look at those. It does seem like an interesting printer. For me as a happy amateur I doubt I could go wrong with either. My main trouble is always clogging because I print comparably infrequently but it seems the Canon has a strategy for dealing with that, if I understood the reviews correctly. br Philip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 8, 2017 Share #25 Posted June 8, 2017 With Epsons (3800 and P800), if I'm not printing much, I just make sure to run a test print every few weeks. No problems at all. Their machines have improved a lot over the years, apart from well known outliers like the 4900. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted June 9, 2017 Share #26 Posted June 9, 2017 You might want to add this to your evaluation process. Some printers add data to the prints using the principles of steganography Is your printer sharing your history? According to a freedom of information request to the US Secret Service made by journalist Theo Karantsalis in 2012, these printer manufacturers agreed to fulfil "document identification requests": Canon Brother Casio Hewlett-Packard Konica Minolta Mita Ricoh Sharp Xerox Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 9, 2017 Share #27 Posted June 9, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) You might want to add this to your evaluation process. Some printers add data to the prints using the principles of steganography Apparently color laser, not inkjet as discussed here. On the other hand, it could help reduce fraudulent use of copyrighted photos. I might like the idea. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
procrustes Posted June 26, 2017 Share #28 Posted June 26, 2017 I'm personally leaning towards the P800 but has anyone got any experience with the Pro-1000 from Canon? I was also vacillating between the Canon P-1000 and Epson P800. Most of my work is with an M246 so I need a printer to do good B&W primarily. Initially I was drawn to the Canon because of its build quality and usability, its one major flaw seeming to be lack of panorama support. Then I remembered reading Northlight Images' review which stated that Canon's own Print Studio Pro plug-in wasn't able to print from greyscale images, only from converted RGB. This would rule out my camera. Like others here (Thanks to Jeff S & BrianP) I'd always intended to invest in the ImagePrint 10 RIP as I've neither the time nor patience to do my own profiling, so I contacted John Pannozzo at ColorByte to ask his advice and have been permitted to quote his reply: "Thanks for contacting us. In regards to the Canon PRO 1000. It’s a great printer but if you want to do serious B/W it’s not going to be the one for you. The PRO 1000 has a lot of restrictions placed upon it in the firmware. The length limitation is just one. There is no way for us to drive the print head directly so we treat the printer as an RGB device. What this means is we can not do our Narrow Gamut technology on it. We do our Wide Gamut and a straight grayscale mode using just black inks and it will do good b/w this way but not what a serious b/w printer would want." So for me it's a no brainer, I really wanted to like the Canon with it's vacuum feed, self cleaning and auto ink agitation but at the end of the day print quality has to come first. And I wasn't looking forward to lugging it up the stairs! Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James S Posted July 28, 2017 Share #29 Posted July 28, 2017 Regarding the dreadful front loading of the P800, I have got through several sheets of paper getting this wrong. I found it can jam at the back where it exits the printer again. Simple solution that has worked for me is a sheet of normal A4 (or letter for those of you in the US) just down the back to guide the proper piece of paper onto the rear tray. Not lost a sheet of paper since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 28, 2017 Share #30 Posted July 28, 2017 Regarding the dreadful front loading of the P800, I have got through several sheets of paper getting this wrong. I found it can jam at the back where it exits the printer again. Simple solution that has worked for me is a sheet of normal A4 (or letter for those of you in the US) just down the back to guide the proper piece of paper onto the rear tray. Not lost a sheet of paper since.I've never had an issue with the front feed, which has been improved from the 3800/3880 mechanism. If you're confident that you're properly loading the paper on the front tray (after removing any curl), properly opening the rear path, and selecting the correct paper from the menu, then you should immediately contact Epson or your dealer for repair or replacement. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jJvjbcYYzvc Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted July 28, 2017 Share #31 Posted July 28, 2017 I learned Epson front loading on the R3000, and now have no problem with my new P800. I actually find the latter slightly easier, as it now has a distinct lip at the front to align the paper, rather than just an engraved line. The key issue, for me, is flattening any upcurl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted July 28, 2017 Share #32 Posted July 28, 2017 I could never get an A3 sheet in the front to go to the line (or lip) on the grey loading platform. But it worked until one day my P800 stopped front loading after it had twisted and jammed a sheet. It would whirr and click but the paper wouldn't move (nine times out of ten). I took it to the nearest Epson repair center (a three hour drive). A few weeks later they returned the printer to me (oof! I don't have a car and had had to beg the lift to Epson from a friend). They said no fault found and they had passed eighty sheets through it so I asked the technician to watch a load and print with me (the printer had also been leaving track marks in the last 5cm of a print on the one time in ten that it did load). The printer performed perfectly for him. He said the paper was wrong (Hahnemühle Baryta FB 350gsm). The cost was a mere 350€. After he left, I tried and it wouldn't load. I'm going to use the rear feed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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